2022 mini-budget discussion

Chris Wilson · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:08

thenewoc said:
Cutting red tape for businesses which will speed up obtaining employees from our domestic market.

And being more easily able to rid companies of dead legs, trouble makers and specious claimants.

Murphy · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:08

thenewoc said:
I've already answered the point you were making in that 'radical times need radical changes' is not calling upon us to have a world war!

And i keep telling you that the people of 1933 Germany thought exactly the same as you are now but it doesn't seem to be sinking in.

mid_gen · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:08

iamtheoneneo said:
You would think but id imagine the tory faithful wont want to spark another leadership battle knowing it would likely cause a GE to trigger.

It's getting to the point where we might finally go full French and take to the streets tbh. These idiots need removing.

thenewoc · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:08

arknor said:
Is your job title "Delusional Tory Voter & hater of the poor"

What's your take on disabled people? It's their fault for being born?

Now you're just going further off topic with your assumed righteous attack on my principals, unnecessary!

Uther · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:09

thenewoc said:
Cutting red tape for businesses which will speed up obtaining employees from our domestic market.

So, 12 years of failed Tory government, with now four, yes FOUR Tory PM's, is this now 4th time lucky for you?

CapitalOne · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:09

thenewoc said:
Cutting red tape for businesses which will speed up obtaining employees from our domestic market.

Red tape? They are just shifting the burden, same "Red Tape" different scissors.

Didn't most so called PSC move to umberella schemes which reduces the burden on HMRC?

Still don't get it. IR35 changes are basically 0 in the scheme of things with no financial benefit. As for the domestic market, well it's now government policy to import skilled workers from India to fill those roles etc who will be cheaper

thenewoc · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:10

Murphy said:
And i keep telling you that the people of 1933 Germany thought exactly the same as you are now but it doesn't seem to be sinking in.

And I've explained to you that I don't believe that your example equates to a pattern of behaviours / outcomes.

chroniclard · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:10

Chris Wilson said:
Go on, name this successful yet Utopian first world economy, your riddle has me perplexed...

Or is it that it simply doesn't exist but you are incapable of admitting it?

You continue to make up these extreme visions that nobody has mentioned to try and make a point.

Its like you dont want to improve the country for everyone because of some failed(and failing in real time) political ideology.

thenewoc · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:11

mid_gen said:
It's getting to the point where we might finally go full French and take to the streets tbh. These idiots need removing.

Go for it, it's usually what the left do when they can't get their own way / elections don't go their way. France being a good example of lefties.

Uther · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:12

The Tory party ladies and gentlemen:
A senior Conservative MP has been in contact Sky political news editor Agnes Chambres.

They said: "Kwasi and Liz will have to go. They have to, they are actually crashing the economy.

"I expect [Sir] Graham {Brady] will have to visit them after Conference. Party is deciding whether a coronation or leadership [contest]. Some want Rishi [Sunak], most of us don't, so coronation is hard.

And political editor Beth Rigby was told by another senior Tory: "I don't think it is sustainable. I predict the chancellor will get the sack and it will unravel from there."

GordyR · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:13

Chris Wilson said:
I'll ask again, this successful first world economy where the risk taking investors are paid a lot less and the unskilled and low skilled workers are paid a lot more than in Great Britain, where is it...?

I've not personally checked, but I wouldn't be surprised if most of the countries below fare better in terms of income inequality between the two groups you mention.

mid_gen · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:13

The pound is collapsing again.

thenewoc · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:13

Uther said:
So, 12 years of failed Tory government, with now four, yes FOUR Tory PM's, is this now 4th time lucky for you?

When the only other choice is likely Labour then yes I'd prefer to have Tory.

iamtheoneneo · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:14

thenewoc said:
Go for it, it's usually what the left do when they can't get their own way / elections don't go their way. France being a good example of lefties.

and the right just cover their eyes and ears and pretend everything is ok. I guess...

CapitalOne · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:14

Uther said:
The Tory party ladies and gentlemen:
A senior Conservative MP has been in contact Sky political news editor Agnes Chambres.

They said: "Kwasi and Liz will have to go. They have to, they are actually crashing the economy.

"I expect [Sir] Graham {Brady] will have to visit them after Conference. Party is deciding whether a coronation or leadership [contest]. Some want Rishi [Sunak], most of us don't, so coronation is hard.

And political editor Beth Rigby was told by another senior Tory: "I don't think it is sustainable. I predict the chancellor will get the sack and it will unravel from there."

At times like this it's important to look at the funny side occasionally. Hhaaaahahahahaahhahaaaa

Chris Wilson · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:14

chroniclard said:
You continue to make up these extreme visions that nobody has mentioned to try and make a point.

Its like you dont want to improve the country for everyone because of some failed(and failing in real time) political ideology.

Someone clearly said they wanted to see investors rewarded less and workers rewarded more as an ideology to a fairer (but presumably a still profitable) economy. I am merely asking for a first world example of this in action.

Europe wide election results make it look as if the political ideology is shifting to the Right. Not the left.

arknor · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:15

GordyR said:
I've not personally checked, but I wouldn't be surprised if most of the countries below fare better in terms of income inequality between the two groups you mention.

In other countries everyone benefits and get's better off together.
In the UK a few benefits of the backs of everything else like in the old days of slavery.

Obviously, the elites still think they lord it over everyone else.

Hopefully riots break out and we can take back control

thenewoc · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:15

mid_gen said:
The pound is collapsing again.

Still below the 0.96 GBP to the USD of a couple of days ago.

GordyR · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:15

thenewoc said:
Cutting red tape for businesses which will speed up obtaining employees from our domestic market.

What red tape exactly?

The OECD listed the UK as the 2nd least regulated country in the G20 for business, and that was back in 2014/2015 while we were still EU members.

So precisely what "red tape" are you referring to?

CapitalOne · 28 Sep 2022 at 12:15

thenewoc said:
When the only other choice is likely Labour then yes I'd prefer to have Tory.

I predict at least 5 years of intense disappointment