2022 mini-budget discussion

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Devilman said:
That's a truly incredible strawman you've managed to construct there, using not a single word from my own post which you quoted, except for your favorite "immigrant".

Check how the Social Housing stock was wiped out by Right-To-Buy, a Tory Policy started in late 79.

Now, unless there has been "1000 plus a day" pouring into the UK since 1979, they are very much NOT the issue here...

Yes it may take some of them a few weeks / months (even years) to get established, especially as a not insignificant number of those are fleeing warzones, or have been tortured, witness to torture and various other atrocities.

I truly fail to see how this is any different to someone "born and bred" here. There is absolutely NOTHING to say that because someone is born here they won't adopt a lifestyle of "I'm not going to work, benefits for me for life" anymore than an immigrant would.

This is just you, yet again clutching at straws trying to paint anyone who is not "born and bred British" as beneath you and somehow a "lower tier human"
Immigrants are not the cause of the shortage of Social Housing stock... Selling off vast chunks of Social Housing is the primary cause of that.

Stop trying to blame everyone else for the failings of past and present governments to address the problem.

The issue is not "Too many people", the issue is "Not enough Housing" - The very same issue that is causing house prices to be utterly unaffordable to most NOT ENOUGH HOUSING.


, which for a long time was known as "The Benefit Capital of the UK" it could be very easy to say that in fact, it is those Born and Bred in the UK who are far more likely to be "sponging off the state" and never contributing anything to society, not the immigrants.
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So, if and when this new affordable housing stock is built, will this endless stream of 1000 plus per day alleged "refugees" from the likes of Pakistan and Albania and other assorted safe havens, be able to put cash on the table, or get a job to finance a mortgage? Or is your above diatribe just covering up that the likes of the RNLI are landing economic parasites on our shores, clearly after freebies? Can you offer figures for how many of these irregular migrants are now contributing to England's GDP?

How many have paperwork proving they are from a war zone, or have they lost all possible means of official ID in the blast inside their home that they narrowly escaped from, in Pakistan or Albania or wherever they claim to be running across the globe from?

Of course, once assimilated into the UK and enjoying our hospitality, they are only too happy to put confrontation, religious persecution and previous nationalism behind them, grateful to their hosts, embracing the UK and her culture, and sighing in relief to not be party to any further argy bargy. Even those who might claim to be long-standing citizens, as British as a newspaper wrapper full of fish and chips, can't bear to put their previous sectarianism behind them:


"Ongoing clashes between Muslims and Hindus threaten to "spread all over Britain”, faith leaders have warned, after 100 protesters descended on a Hindu temple.


A crowd of Muslim demonstrators reportedly threw fireworks and missiles in the direction of police in the industrial town of Smethwick on Tuesday night as the disorder seen in Leicester over the weekend appeared to spread across the Midlands.


On Wednesday night, faith leaders issued a warning that the current unrest, apparently fuelled by disinformation circulating on social media, “will spread all over Britain”.


Police made 47 arrests in Leicester this weekend for offences including making threats to kill, possession of a firearm and affray. Some linked the sectarian violence to a "country-based dispute" after India beat Pakistan in a cricket match in Dubai on August 28, while others have said false claims made on social media triggered the clashes.


The widespread disorder, involving mainly young men from sections of the Muslim and Hindu communities, erupted in Smethwick when a crowd of people gathered outside Durga Bhawan Temple."


I wouldn't offer these sorts a glass of water, let alone a welcoming home at the taxpayer's expense. Many EU countries that have offered such magnanimosity have now turned to the Right to show their regret for being so duped, and in the hope of quelling further trouble and cost.
 
Goodie said:
What do we think then, dollar parity by 9.30 tomorrow?
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Its already recovered but bbc or guardian won't put that story front page. It doesn't matter who the pm is though they will have a go regardless because the woke bunch want the lefties in.

Usa and imf are jealous we are heading towards a low tax economy. Traders have just over reacted there's no logic to it.

Look at the euro 0.96 to the dollar whataboutery I know but still.

When the traders calm down and world business realises why the UK is doing this we will thrive and become competitive.

All global currencies are deflating, the US is exporting inflation.
 
pallys said:
Its already recovered but bbc or guardian won't put that story front page. It doesn't matter who the pm is though they will have a go regardless because the woke bunch want the lefties in.

Usa and imf are jealous we are heading towards a low tax economy. Traders have just over reacted there's no logic to it.

Look at the euro 0.96 to the dollar whataboutery I know but still.

When the traders calm down and world business realises why the UK is doing this we will thrive and become competitive.

All global currencies are deflating, the US is exporting inflation.
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Hi Kwasi good to see you here.
 
pallys said:
Its already recovered but bbc or guardian won't put that story front page. It doesn't matter who the pm is though they will have a go regardless because the woke bunch want the lefties in.

Usa and imf are jealous we are heading towards a low tax economy. Traders have just over reacted there's no logic to it.

Look at the euro 0.96 to the dollar whataboutery I know but still.

When the traders calm down and world business realises why the UK is doing this we will thrive and become competitive.

All global currencies are deflating, the US is exporting inflation.
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Recovered from what? The government is denying anything happened.
 
You just know the few dribbling idiots who are trying to defend this ****show would be screaming blue murder until the end of time if a Labour chancellor had caused such a meltdown of the economy.

Chris Wilson said:
Everyone happy now Boris has been punished for his little party and a slice of cake...? :)
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Absolutely, I was cheerleading team Truss so this is perfect, better than I could ever have expected! :D As this is it, this is the Minford Brexit economic model you all voted for and as predicted its completely pants on head stupid. But you now have nowhere to hide, no blaming the 'liberal elite remainers' thwarting all your unicorn fantasies, you've got what you wanted. Now just sit back and enjoy it :)
 
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Freakbro said:
You just know the few dribbling idiots who are trying to defend this ****show would be screaming blue murder until the end of time if a Labour chancellor had caused such a meltdown of the economy.



Absolutely, I was cheerleading team Truss so this is perfect, better than I could ever have expected! :D As this is it, this is the Minford Brexit economic model you all voted for and as predicted its completely pants on head stupid. But you now have nowhere to hide, no blaming the 'liberal elite remainers' thwarting all your unicorn fantasies, you've got what you wanted. Now just sit back and enjoy it :)
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They're already blaming it on immigrants. You're deluded if you think they will take responsibility for their actions.

You can't reason with stupid.
 
pallys said:
Its already recovered but bbc or guardian won't put that story front page. It doesn't matter who the pm is though they will have a go regardless because the woke bunch want the lefties in.

Usa and imf are jealous we are heading towards a low tax economy. Traders have just over reacted there's no logic to it.

Look at the euro 0.96 to the dollar whataboutery I know but still.

When the traders calm down and world business realises why the UK is doing this we will thrive and become competitive.

All global currencies are deflating, the US is exporting inflation.
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All currencies are deflating so we decide to give the super rich more money. Makes sense.
 
Devilman said:
That's a truly incredible strawman you've managed to construct there, using not a single word from my own post which you quoted, except for your favorite "immigrant".
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While i like to see people taking someone like Chris Wilson to task i feel you're wasting your time as it's obvious he's a full time troll, that he's playing a caricature of someone like Alf Garnett.
 
Freakbro said:
You just know the few dribbling idiots who are trying to defend this ****show would be screaming blue murder until the end of time if a Labour chancellor had caused such a meltdown of the economy.



Absolutely, I was cheerleading team Truss so this is perfect, better than I could ever have expected! :D As this is it, this is the Minford Brexit economic model you all voted for and as predicted its completely pants on head stupid. But you now have nowhere to hide, no blaming the 'liberal elite remainers' thwarting all your unicorn fantasies, you've got what you wanted. Now just sit back and enjoy it :)
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This has nothing to do with Brexit. It has everything to do with absolute government incompetence.
 
sigma said:
All currencies are deflating so we decide to give the super rich more money. Makes sense.
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In return for wealth creation yeah. Perhaps forgoing that additional measly 5% is worth it.
After all 99% of the folk here are employed by those talented wealth creators. Dont bite the hands that feed you.

I would have kept the 45% band but only for the optics, financially I don't think it makes sense to keep it though.


The mistake is to think the outcome would be any different under labour. The US is shafting everyone but they don't care as long as they're alright, they don't care their own people will lose jobs as a result.
 
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