Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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kylew_is_back said:
Russian government have nothing that even remotely resemble nazis, on the other hand ukrainian government are almost real nazis with all the tactics symbols and everything, backed by usa ofcourse.

Russia isn't responsible for the genocide, but rather the socialist policies that ussr implemented in the name of communism(backed by usa) by a dictator that wasn't even a russian. Also the Russians didn't move in east ukraine recently, but they were living in this area for many many centuries.
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Doesn't matter how long they have been there. You live in Ukraine, you live by Ukraine rules. Even if you don't like not being able to teach in Russian. Or move to Russia. Every country should expel Russians to avoid any repeat in the future. Especially those bordering Russia.
 
UKR claimed their independence and Russia don't like it for a few reasons. That's the bottom line. They just weren't able to do anything about it before. There is nothing else.

Reasons being 1) better border defence against European nations with less troops. 2) land, lots of it, with natural resources and Black Sea access. 3) a few others.

This really is the jealous neighbor trying to steal it.
 
kylew_is_back said:
Russian government have nothing that even remotely resemble nazis, on the other hand ukrainian government are almost real nazis with all the tactics symbols and everything, backed by usa ofcourse.

Russia isn't responsible for the genocide, but rather the socialist policies that ussr implemented in the name of communism(backed by usa) by a dictator that wasn't even a russian. Also the Russians didn't move in east ukraine recently, but they were living in this area for many many centuries.
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LOL

Communist Russia killed millions but it was all evil USA that made us do it !!!!! We wanted to stop but they kept making us starve/kill and torture people because.....evil USA! Their fault!

Not sure if you are a rusbot/chinabot or amnesia, but I guess they are all one and the same, comedy gold.
 
Scougar said:
UKR claimed their independence and Russia don't like it for a few reasons. That's the bottom line. They just weren't able to do anything about it before. There is nothing else.

Reasons being 1) better border defence against European nations with less troops. 2) land, lots of it, with natural resources and Black Sea access. 3) a few others.

This really is the jealous neighbor trying to steal it.
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I always feel a significant factor in this conflict is Putin not being able to allow a former Soviet state to slide further into the Western sphere and appear to be more successful and the social freedoms which come with it as it would cast questions domestically on the state of Russia.
 
*seven said:
The United States has actually become a party to the conflict in Ukraine, said the Russian Foreign Ministry
https://ria.ru/20220929/ukraina-1820327129.html
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To be fair, any nation providing real-time support is party to the conflict and has been from the start.
It doesn't make any difference. What are Russia going to do, physically attack USA or its assets?
That's not going to turn out well for Russia.
It's just more sound bites for the home audience to "show" that the west/NATO are against them.
 
I_M_Weasel said:
It is strange - I can't really see who benefits. For Russia it has removed the 'Europe crawling back over the winter leverage'. It does nothing for the west and NATO.

Maybe Ukraine gain an advantage - but they would be crazy to do anything that upsets its allies and they dont have the capability.

I really don't understand it.
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It is a clear disbenefit to Russia. They have now lost a negotiating lever, and the opportunity of future funds.

If they had the means to blow up a pipeline, why would they they blow up all of theirs, rather than the Norwegian competition?

All very mysterious...
 
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steve45 said:
To be fair, any nation providing real-time support is party to the conflict and has been from the start.
It doesn't make any difference. What are Russia going to do, physically attack USA or its assets?
That's not going to turn out well for Russia.
It's just more sound bites for the home audience to "show" that the west/NATO are against them.
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I do find it funny how the article states that US has lost touch with reality, meanwhile Russian propaganda twists reality with every sentence more or less.

Even if you don't believe everything you say or are skeptical, Russian media has been dis-proven on various occasions with publicly available info.
 
kylew_is_back said:
Russian government have nothing that even remotely resemble nazis, on the other hand ukrainian government are almost real nazis with all the tactics symbols and everything, backed by usa ofcourse.

Russia isn't responsible for the genocide, but rather the socialist policies that ussr implemented in the name of communism(backed by usa) by a dictator that wasn't even a russian. Also the Russians didn't move in east ukraine recently, but they were living in this area for many many centuries.
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Hi Vlad, good to have you around.
 
potatolord said:
It is a clear disbenefit to Russia. They have now lost a negotiating lever, and the opportunity of future funds.

If they had the means to blow up a pipeline, why would they they blow up all of theirs, rather than the Norwegian competition?

All very mysterious...
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There are plenty of other Russia to EU gas pipes that are still operable, scroll down in this article for a map https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62779909
 
potatolord said:
It is a clear disbenefit to Russia. They have now lost a negotiating lever, and the opportunity of future funds.

If they had the means to blow up a pipeline, why would they they blow up all of theirs, rather than the Norwegian competition?

All very mysterious...
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They haven't blown up all their pipelines - they have blown up 2 of which only 1 has ever been used. They have other pipelines into Europe.
Also is it really that big of an issue to fix? The original pipeline took a year to lay. Even if they needed to completely rebuild it wouldn't be a huge issue.
I can't see the US having anything to do with it. Even if Trump was in power I couldn't see it! Too many people would need to be involved for too little gain. The US has Europe over a barrel as it is - we need their fuels, we need their weapons. Why do something so risky?

At this stage asking what Russia has to gain by blowing up their own pipelines is a daft question. Very little of what they have done this year has made any sense to a rational mind. Best guess is that Putin is sending a message to the west that he is willing to do anything to 'win'.
I don't think it doesn't cost him anything. At this stage he is personally pass the point of no return. If Nord stream are ever to be functional again it won't be under his watch.
 
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kylew_is_back said:
Russian government have nothing that even remotely resemble nazis, on the other hand ukrainian government are almost real nazis with all the tactics symbols and everything, backed by usa ofcourse.

Russia isn't responsible for the genocide, but rather the socialist policies that ussr implemented in the name of communism(backed by usa) by a dictator that wasn't even a russian. Also the Russians didn't move in east ukraine recently, but they were living in this area for many many centuries.
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Wow, boy can I have some of your meds. I have never seen such a deluded idiotic comment
 
woppy101 said:
Wow, boy can I have some of your meds. I have never seen such a deluded idiotic comment
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It was such people that caused 'Animal Farm' to be rejected by multiple publishers. Uncle Joe Stalin was such a nice chap, he helped us win the war after all.
 
potatolord said:
It is a clear disbenefit to Russia. They have now lost a negotiating lever, and the opportunity of future funds.

If they had the means to blow up a pipeline, why would they they blow up all of theirs, rather than the Norwegian competition?

All very mysterious...
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Russia keep threatening to cut off gas supplies, the EU refer to contracts which would see Russia penalised if they did something like that - having plausible deniability to cut gas supplies give Russia a way of "hurting" the EU without being liable to contract clauses if there's not enough proof to prove they did it.
 
potatolord said:
It is a clear disbenefit to Russia. They have now lost a negotiating lever, and the opportunity of future funds.

If they had the means to blow up a pipeline, why would they they blow up all of theirs, rather than the Norwegian competition?

All very mysterious...
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Does any of what Putin done lately make any sense.
 
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