The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Zero.

Like everyone else you could simply judge each event individually and apply criticism where it's due.

The fact that doing so happens to result in Elon being heavily criticised of late, is merely a symptom of him recently doing plenty that's worthy of criticism.

This whole ridiculous idea that people are just "hating on someone" because they don't like them is childish garbage.

I fully understand why it happens, it's a common mental defence mechanism for people who've allowed themselves to become caught up in personality cult-worship.

We saw it with Donald Trump and it's the same with most other cult-like leaders throughout history; people under their grip are simply incapable of accepting that others genuinely feel that specific things their beloved leader has said or done are worthy of criticism.

Rather than address or acknowledge the criticism honestly, instead they find it far easier to mentally dismiss it as "illegitimate hate" from whatever out-group their dear leader has chosen to direct their acolytes anger towards; ultimately leading to them being compartmentalised as enemies.

It's powerful psychological stuff that certain types of people are very susceptible to.

Just watch for the ones that post a laugh emoji to your post.
They will be the ones signed up as elon cult members
 
I think the vast majority ended up understanding those who really suffered from TDS were the ones who supported the failed ex president of the USA as if he would be a bright light of change
When the reality was most of his time was spent grifting and doing little else than watching fox news and eating cremated steak with tomato sauce.
But the vote was stolen!!!
 
yeah I haven't been critical of Musk and this plane tracking ban at all have I..

Injecting a tiny "I don't agree with this little bit but..." disclaimer, into what is a 100+ post long defence against all criticism of him, doesn't really count as criticism itself in my opinion.
 
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Injecting a tiny "I don't agree with this little bit but..." disclaimer, into what is a 100+ post long defence against all criticism against him, doesn't really count in my opinion.
That's more of a you problem though, maybe should stop seeing things purely as black and white.

Quite amusing that you state someone should "judge each event individually" but now you're saying not to judge each event individually? Make your mind up.
 
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That's more of a you problem though, maybe should stop seeing things purely as black and white.

No it's not.

It's a rebuttal to your attempt to paint your position in this thread as having been somehow honestly critical.

"I'm not racist but..."
"I'm not sexist but..."
"I don't agree with Elon on this, but..."

It's very thinly veiled.
 
No it's not.

It's a rebuttal to your attempt to paint your position in this thread as having been somehow honestly critical.

"I'm not racist but..."
"I'm not sexist but..."
"I don't agree with Elon on this, but..."

It's very thinly veiled.

Quite amusing that you state someone should "judge each event individually" but now you're saying not to judge each event individually? Make your mind up.
 
No it's not.

It's a rebuttal to your attempt to paint your position in this thread as having been somehow honestly critical.

"I'm not racist but..."
"I'm not sexist but..."
"I don't agree with Elon on this, but..."

It's very thinly veiled.

You've now given CKent some ammo to say you're calling them a racist. An easy deflection.
 
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Quite amusing that you state someone should "judge each event individually" but now you're saying not to judge each event individually? Make your mind up.

I think you might be confused if that's what you've inferred.
 
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That's more of a you problem though, maybe should stop seeing things purely as black and white.

Quite amusing that you state someone should "judge each event individually" but now you're saying not to judge each event individually? Make your mind up.

From some people that maybe a valid criticism.

From someone who had to be told TWICE not to post in the Rings of Power thread for basically trolling* on how bad it was that is quite remarkable levels of lacking self awareness to accuse someone of not being able to judge something correctly.

*For those unaware, C Kent finally admitted that he hadn't watched it and was fully able to JUDGE how bad it was from memes on twitter.
 
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I think you might be confused if that's what you've inferred.
Nope its crystal clear.

-Like everyone else you could simply judge each event individually and apply criticism where it's due."
-Shows evidence of judging events individually and applying criticism.
-No not like that, you need to be critical of musk's every decision.

You need to stop flip-flopping your position when shown to have incorrect assumptions.
 
From some people that maybe a valid criticism.

From someone who had to be told TWICE not to post in the Rings of Power thread for basically trolling* on how bad it was that is quite remarkable levels of lacking self awareness to accuse someone of not being able to judge something correctly.

*For those unaware, C Kent finally admitted that he hadn't watched it and was fully able to JUDGE how bad it was from memes on twitter.
waaaa, he didn't like my favorite tv show. Get over it son.
 
Nope its crystal clear.

-Like everyone else you could simply judge each event individually and apply criticism where it's due."
-Shows evidence of judging events individually and applying criticism.
-No not like that, you need to be critical of musk's every decision.

You need to stop flip-flopping your position when shown to have incorrect assumptions.

No...

I'm saying that I don't believe that your single, mild disagreement with Elon, assuming of course that it's genuine, amounts to evidence that you've been fair and balanced in your assessment of the multiple events that have taken place during the course of this thread.

Perhaps I should have been more clear and detailed in my response, but in my defence, only 12+ hours ago I was reprimanded in this thread by one of Musk's most ardhent cult-acolytes (@Roar87) for being too in depth and detailed in my posting.

It gets a little hard to know how people in this thread would prefer me to post.
 
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Lol, and there we have it again.

How can you not like something you never watched.

Your far too easy to manipulate, thats your problem in a nut shell.
Jesus ******* christ, nice way to drag it off topic - by watching clips and reading reviews of people that share a similar taste. it's not rocket science, funnily enough, my critique of said show were only ever lore-based deviations, or terrible acting as shown by the clips others posted, or even casting choices (not sure if it was you or not but I had a decent 10-20 post debate of the casting choice of elves from the original JP trilogy)
 
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assuming of course that it's genuine
See for all of your posting about folks applying a critical eye to each individual event, you then go ahead and post this little snippet. You aren't entering into a debate with them from a neutral point of view, so it doesn't matter what they post you'll just hand wave it away as you've already made your mind up purely because they aren't on your side of the twitter/elon argument. You have zero idea if I've been critical of anything else musk has done regarding twitter because you had no clue I was critical of the banning of flight path information accounts (even though its a couple of posts above yours). To be fair, I've no idea if you've posted anything positive about the purchase even though there have been a couple of 'big wins', but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

This again rolls around to my original point in that you need to stop seeing things so black and white.
 
So Twitter is now banning links to the elonjet on other platforms. Isn't that similar to the NY Post story ban? People weren't able to post links to it and that caused outrage.

That was about suppressing a news story from an established US newspaper/freedom of the press.

Granted the way Elon has gone about doing this is in a total cake-and-arse manner but the general principle is sound (even if it took some lunatic jumping on a car with Elon's kid in it for the change to occur).

Posting real-time locations of public figures or indeed tracking their movements in real time is a bit iffy and so long as you can still report that same info with a delay then I don't really see a huge free speech issue, it is more of a safety issue.

The really dark side of this security issue is perhaps highlighted by the murder in September of a rapper after an Instagram post was made of his current location:

The gunman who killed PnB Rock at the Roscoe’s House of Chicken & Waffles restaurant in South Los Angeles demanded jewelry and other valuables before getting into a struggle with the rapper and opening fire, Los Angeles Police Chief Michel Moore said Tuesday.

Moore said the Monday attack occurred soon after the rapper was tagged online as being at the restaurant, and police are investigating whether that is what prompted the attack.

Rock, 30, whose real name was Rakim Allen, had been at the restaurant with his girlfriend, who had posted a location-tagged photo in a since-deleted Instagram post.

In that case it was his gf who posted the location but this can just as easily be posted by fans and the danger is there, people like rappers in the US are an obvious "rich person" target for low-level gangbanger types. Ditto to footballers in the UK, they're already in danger of being burgled when it's known they're playing a match and have been targeted by burglars based on that but they can just as easily be robbery targets too.

Lastly, there is the stalker issue, one of my Twitter mutuals has a 7 figure following on various platforms, she's posted a fair bit on her alt about both creepy male celebs in her DMs and stalkers, one time she posted a pic from a real-time location and someone rapidly geolocated it and DM'd her.

I think for some of these celebs it's not necessarily people who actively want to harm them but mentally ill people who want to get close to them for whatever reason or believe they know each other or have some sort of relationship, there was an interview with a Royal Protection officer I saw recently and he stated their biggest issue was dealing with mentally ill people who'd turn up trying to get access to the Royals, pretending they had an appointment etc..
 
And his disciples will lap it up.


This video was a good one from mkbhd. Great to see how self driving is coming along, but it's later than promised, and still I'd say not at all usable in a relaxing way, based off that video. The sort of thing you'd use once, and then never again. Having to have your foot constantly on break out of fear is not a good feeling. I can understand why Tesla owners are suing due to false advertising regarding self driving abilities

Because it’s a working progress? It’s using data from drivers everytime they drive to improve

I’ve been watching the FSD videos over the years and it has come a long way
 
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