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[IceWolf]

6800 XT is back at £599 here.

Alternatively look at 4070Ti (£799) and 7900 XT (£899)

I'd probably buy the 6800 XT personally or 6900 XT (£699)

I think he already got a nice second hand 3080 but those 6800 and 6900 cards are also better value than most of the newer generation of products

 

[IceWolf]

I'm not trying to vere off topic here but the 3090 RRP on release was £1399-£1499 and selling at that or higher consistently for 2 years.

The 4090 is £100 more RRP.

So, do please explain?


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This thread should basically be closed now as the OP's question has been answered and he has his new GPU.

But to answer your question:
No-one has a problem with 4090 being $1600 RRP, +100 over the 3090. 3090 was a poor value proposition vs 3080 at only 5-10% higher perfomance for double the price.
People have a problem with 4080 being +$500 over 3080 and being more cut down from a 4090 than prior generation 80 series cards were. They likewise have a problem with the very cut down 4070Ti being sold at +$100 over the 3080 when it is effectively a 60 series by core count and memory bandwidth reductions.
They also have a problem with AMD selling an 800 series product by relative rasterisation performance (approximately equal to 4080) under a 900 name (7900XTX) but especially them selling the cut down 7900XT at 10% less (-$100) for 15-20% reduced perfomance.

Essentially the long standing "rules" of the GPU market where price to perfomance rose exponentially towards the top tier product have been broken by both manufacturers with the second to top tier products being worse value than the top ones in order to upsell customers. And budget conscious buyers are rightfully unhappy that this attitude will also apply to midrange and low end products, effectively destroying long-standing value for money standards. Yes, manufacturing prices have risen by 30% but GPU costs outside the 4090 have risen by 50%. And the unavailability of RRP products means actual GPUs you can buy cost between $50-150 more than the RRP.

 

[hernaldo]

This thread should basically be closed now as the OP's question has been answered and he has his new GPU.

But to answer your question:
No-one has a problem with 4090 being $1600 RRP, +100 over the 3090. 3090 was a poor value proposition vs 3080 at only 5-10% higher perfomance for double the price.
People have a problem with 4080 being +$500 over 3080 and being more cut down from a 4090 than prior generation 80 series cards were. They likewise have a problem with the very cut down 4070Ti being sold at +$100 over the 3080 when it is effectively a 60 series by core count and memory bandwidth reductions.
They also have a problem with AMD selling an 800 series product by relative rasterisation performance (approximately equal to 4080) under a 900 name (7900XTX) but especially them selling the cut down 7900XT at 10% less (-$100) for 15-20% reduced perfomance.

Essentially the long standing "rules" of the GPU market where price to perfomance rose exponentially towards the top tier product have been broken by both manufacturers with the second to top tier products being worse value than the top ones in order to upsell customers. And budget conscious buyers are rightfully unhappy that this attitude will also apply to midrange and low end products, effectively destroying long-standing value for money standards. Yes, manufacturing prices have risen by 30% but GPU costs outside the 4090 have risen by 50%. And the unavailability of RRP products means actual GPUs you can buy cost between $50-150 more than the RRP.

All fair views and objectively put.

 

[queeg]

i played rd2 on a 6800xt and 5900x it was a great experience it also replaced a 1080ti its a great upgrade as long as you dont want RT

 

[varkanoid]

Is a shame to see more arguing and pointless posts in this thread over things that don't really matter and people discussing what an expression or word actually means.

Thats what the ignore button is for.