When you get to the yearly anniversaries of these big events like energy and interest rate rises inflation can drop quickly below 5% but I feel it will be a few years before it goes to 2%.
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We are getting split across numerous threads due to it also getting posted in the solar thread.
I will setup a new thread in Home and Garden that people can track, a few of us post up about sessions but really we need somewhere a bit more focussed.
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Created a thread specifically for the savings session / demand reduction stuff so people can follow to get notifications
I will always try to make sure I post up when a new session is announced if no one beats me to it
Will also link the docs with formulas etc in there at some point
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I will always try to make sure I post up when a new session is announced if no one beats me to it
Will also link the docs with formulas etc in there at some point
Saving Sessions / Demand reduction thread
Thread for info, dates and timings, bragging on your points Tricks and tips and documentation etc etc
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That weird, the app did send me one and an email from them.
I am still at only like £1.50 ish for all 8 sessions it calculated so far including the bonus points for the streak so not really made any difference but yeah.
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10 year electricity statement
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Electricity Ten Year Statement (ETYS) | National Energy System Operator
The Electricity Ten Year Statement (ETYS) is NESO’s view of future transmission requirements and the capability of Great Britain’s National Electricity Transmission System (NETS) over the next ten years.
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I did get an email but dont check my gmail often. Shame as the app did alert for the previous three.
April 3K EPG price cap
no news yet on the actual unit prices for the April 3K price cap - when is it being announced along with updates on other tarif updates(possibly changing due to additional windfall tax)
expecting from Cornwall 46/34 28/10.3 will be 37/46 31/12.5, & without the £69p/m and only slightly reduced gas/heating usage because winter has been mild, will probably be £50p/m more.
www.fdf.org.uk
no news yet on the actual unit prices for the April 3K price cap - when is it being announced along with updates on other tarif updates(possibly changing due to additional windfall tax)
expecting from Cornwall 46/34 28/10.3 will be 37/46 31/12.5, & without the £69p/m and only slightly reduced gas/heating usage because winter has been mild, will probably be £50p/m more.
it's the breakout dairy is the killer, who cares about crisps.
17 months of food inflation
The Food and Drink Federation (FDF) is the voice of the UK food and drink industry, the largest manufacturing sector in the country.
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What the heck is with the pricing on solar stuff in this country?!
How does adding 10 panels add £6.5k to the price? They should be no more than £200 each... (yeah maybe you need an MPPT as well). Then additional panels £500 each up till the point you have bought 6, then suddenly the battery is doubled? Battery is far and away the most expensive portion of a system (assuming you get a decent one). What am I missing? This all seems completely wonky with an unreasonable loading on the price of the panels.
How does adding 10 panels add £6.5k to the price? They should be no more than £200 each... (yeah maybe you need an MPPT as well). Then additional panels £500 each up till the point you have bought 6, then suddenly the battery is doubled? Battery is far and away the most expensive portion of a system (assuming you get a decent one). What am I missing? This all seems completely wonky with an unreasonable loading on the price of the panels.
"charge what the market can bear" model.What the heck is with the pricing on solar stuff in this country?!
How does adding 10 panels add £6.5k to the price? They should be no more than £200 each... (yeah maybe you need an MPPT as well). Then additional panels £500 each up till the point you have bought 6, then suddenly the battery is doubled? Battery is far and away the most expensive portion of a system (assuming you get a decent one). What am I missing? This all seems completely wonky with an unreasonable loading on the price of the panels.
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What the heck is with the pricing on solar stuff in this country?!
How does adding 10 panels add £6.5k to the price? They should be no more than £200 each... (yeah maybe you need an MPPT as well). Then additional panels £500 each up till the point you have bought 6, then suddenly the battery is doubled? Battery is far and away the most expensive portion of a system (assuming you get a decent one). What am I missing? This all seems completely wonky with an unreasonable loading on the price of the panels.
There is a lot more to the cost of panels than the panels themselves which is nigh on fixed cost on a house size solar array which is why within reason you should just max them out.
The cost is the time to install, plus the rails, wiring, isolators etc etc
You probably have somewhere around 50% on top of the panels price for the other consumables as such.
You then also need a more complex inverter, few hundred more or so. It all adds up.
Batteries are expensive with simple install, panels are cheap with complicated install (comparatively)
Package 4 doesn't look bad value for money tbh.
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Depends on the battery I guess - is it a decent brand with a decent warranty and does it allow 100% DoD on that 10.24kwh or are you restricted like some of them are... Also depends on the brands of panels and inverters/MPPTs too I guess.
Still though, I can't get my head around £6k for 10 panels, an MPPT and bits and pieces to install them. A Victron 250/100 MPPT is only a grand. That leaves £3k after the panels... is that seriously what it costs to install them?
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Yep thats pretty much ballpark for it all.
Dont get hung up on the 10% minimum SOC thing, just look for useable capacity. Most will quote the full capacity but note 10% is lowest SOC. Givenergy seem to be the outlier here but they clearly over provision their packs since this battery tech really really dislikes going low so no one will allow that constantly and warranty 10 years.
Demand is high, not just for kit, but also for installers. That could well change who knows.
I am seeing freight looking like its coming down so that might start to show in pricing.
However if pricing comes down I expect demand to go up, I think this "craze" for solar has some time to run yet
Don't think you missed much, i even turned my aquarium heaters off for an hour & bagged a whopping 41 pence.
Waste of time lol.
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Poor fish.
You are doing it wrong. Start 4 hours before the saving session and use as much energy as you possibly can for 3 hours. Have an hour of little/no use and then use no energy during the saving session. Got £15 for the last session by charging my battery for 3 hours and then running the house from it during the saver session.
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Didnt think £15 was a possible outcome 
The point on battery vs panels, the panel price is for fitting to the roof so lots of labour pricing where as the battery is more simply placed I guess. Ive no idea if realistic but I prefer the idea of DIY panels on a balcony or wherever space a house might have obviously roof requires scaffolding and all sorts making it far more.
The point on battery vs panels, the panel price is for fitting to the roof so lots of labour pricing where as the battery is more simply placed I guess. Ive no idea if realistic but I prefer the idea of DIY panels on a balcony or wherever space a house might have obviously roof requires scaffolding and all sorts making it far more.Checked my electric bill today -- Gone up from £34 a month to £43.
Where do they think we get our money from - Money trees.
Dreading when the assistance is stopped. Oh well perhaps we can eat cake.
Nope, the plan is for all the plebs to be eating insects in the future.
Hope I'm not around when that happens.
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More efficient then pesticides which can do more harm then good. They fry them in batter in the far east, our insects are a bit pathetic in comparison so maybe not. Overall any process which is more efficient then current practise is probably where we are heading and hopefully we benefit from that progression, UK over the last 20 years screwed up its ability for self reliance on energy. A major mistake because it weakens national security even, hopefully the penny dropped and we do try to produce more not just import but they probably said that decades ago also.
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