Thoughts on Excessive Speed

I've probably banged on about this enough on this forum, but I used to work for a driving experience company which operated on the roads of the south of France. My comments were based on my experience of that job, which went something like this:

We'd have corporate groups turn up, which always contained a wide variety of people, some interested in cars, some not. I'd give my usual speech about obeying the speed limits etc etc and they'd all nod convincingly. Many would even tell me they always respected it, or that they had never had a speeding ticket in 30 years of driving, etc etc.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that literally, over the course of around 2 years, not a single one genuinely respected the speed limit. Most would in town, but given a wide open road and the keys to an F430 or Gallardo, not a single one went less than 10MPH over the speed limit. I didn't particularly mind and would only remind them when I genuinely believed they were going too fast, but it always made me laugh how many people who I'm sure would tell you that they always respected the speed limit actually didn't.
Fair one and despite my pious posting if you give me the keys to an f430 or gallardo and access to the roads in southern france, that thing is gonna get ragged :)
 
I suppose it depends on your definition of excessive. Driving in a safe manner on the road bears little relation to the posted speed limit most of the time - in either direction (ie 20 in a 30 might be significantly more reckless than 60 in a 40).

There's some real hysterical stuff in this thread already - 100mph stone chips being fatal etc. You'd think the ~30% of Autobahns which are derestricted completely would be littered with corpses caused by all this stuff. Their roads are, in general, quite a bit worse than ours btw.

There is an interesting one on my way to work - the dual carriageway is still a 40 limit for the first 200-300 yards or so but a lot of people go straight to whatever speed they'll do the rest of the dual-carriageway which technically puts many people into a band B or C speeding offence - which might surprise many of them if caught. The police used to do a kind of sneaky checkpoint there but I've not seen it in awhile. Interestingly though on the dual-carriageway itself the local police have a fairly tolerant policy (not to be depended on) and generally don't pull people for up to 85MPH unless driving badly.
 
Until an animal runs out in front of you.
Until you hit a piece of debris or pothole on the road which causes a tyre failure.
Until you have a sudden mechanical failure.

Those would fall into my opinion of "not good" conditions ;)
 
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I was connected on LinkedIn with a chap who owned a large leasing company. Recently his family posted saying he'd passed away with his son in a car crash. I was obviously shocked and wanted to find out what happened so had a quick look and found out he was driving a Bentayga and hit a concrete pillar on the A50......unfortunately Google also included photos from a pretty grim subReddit where some sick individual (who's been arrested for it) took pictures of the crash, which had photos of this poor man and his son dead in the car. The car was smashed to pieces so I imagine they must have been carrying a fair amount of speed, but I guess when you hit an immovable object it's only going to go one way. Anyway, these images feel like they're literally burnt into my corneas now.
Now I can't stop thinking about it and how dangerous driving can be, it's making me really evaluate whether or not I need a fast car and should I ever drive over the limit! FWIW I very rarely drive over 80mph these days especially with children in the car and after copping a 7 day ban for speeding in a 30 8 years ago I've become much more conscientious.
Anyone else ever have these thoughts? Do you really need a fast car if you're not driving on a track? My car isn't even "that" fast (C43 AMG) and I was until recently planning to change it for something a bit faster. I'm totally off the idea now.
People tend to slow down mostly because of real life experiences. That and the need to impress others becoming less and less relevant.
 
I still like having a "spirited" drive every now and then, seems a bit pointless having a sporty car and driving like a granny, i just try and stick to quite roads, normally early hours when going to work at 4 am, but nothing crazy
 
show the real 'good' stuff from car fatalities - the stuff the police, medics etc have to deal with and you'll find those folks that are desenstised would be sleeping beside their mum while necking a load of diazepam to settle themselves :p
These are the same people posting LOLz comments on videos of Brazillian criminal gangs hacking a live (and usually screaming) person to death with blunt machetes. You really think they'll be traumatised by some comparatively tame dashcam footage?
 
Agreed - which is why travelling at 150mph+ when they happen is also "not good" ;)

Which is why I prefaced my post with driving to the conditions of the road that most people have skimmed over.

As @DRZ pointed out theres some absolutely hysterical posts in this thread.
 
There's some real hysterical stuff in this thread already - 100mph stone chips being fatal etc.
nothing hysterical about it, if you can't understand how having something relatively minor happening at slower speeds might be a lesser issue than at higher speeds that's on you.
 
Drive an EV. It'll get to 60 really quick and then become slower and if you do 90 on the motorway the range will plummet making like the hare and tortoise :) One of the benefits of a fast car is that you don't have to drive it fast but the margins for error in terms of grip, brakes and handling are higher than a slower car.
 
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As @DRZ pointed out theres some absolutely hysterical posts in this thread.
quote one? i'm curious to see what you think is hysterical too. @DRZ has already shown they can't understand that speed can play a factor in turning minor issues into major ones, i'm betting you're in the same boat.
 
Thoughts:
- where I live it’s been pointless having a fast car for years. There’s just too much traffic to genuinely use any serious level of performance. The only time I usually see performance are in the traffic light Grand Prix that I actively avoid. It’s just willy waving and shows a complete lack of mechanical sympathy
- I do have an MX5 as a “fun” commuter as it’s possible to enjoy myself at legal speeds
- when I watch other drivers who do speed, they usually only end up in the same traffic jam that I’m in. By speeding, they’re usually just burning more fuel to get to the next set of slow moving traffic faster
- by repeatedly speeding an getting caught, you’re actually FUNDING the speed cameras that we have

I’m nowadays trying to focus on smooth driving within the speed limit. It’s a different way to take pleasure in driving, by trying to “excel” in polite and smoothness
 
Radical notion that if the M5 was cleared and prepped as a race track it could be used safely as a race track.

Not a particularly useful notion since this is about excessive speed in unprepared conditions and with other road users not signed up for these stunts around them.

Fair one and despite my pious posting if you give me the keys to an f430 or gallardo and access to the roads in southern france, that thing is gonna get ragged :)

That reminds me.

Some many years back we were driving, as you say, through southern france, very nice road winding through fields and woodland and mild hills.

Car tore past us at terrific speed.

Few miles down the road some cars had pulled up and a frenchman was flagging down vehicles asking if anyone had a mobile phone (yeah this long ago).

Car that sped past us was was upside down some distance into a field a little below the road level.

Guess something unexpected turned up.
 
Which is why I prefaced my post with driving to the conditions of the road that most people have skimmed over.

As @DRZ pointed out theres some absolutely hysterical posts in this thread.

The nature of the events I mentioned is that they are unpredictable - I was more referring to normal human beings who are unable to react to things happening before they know they are going to happen :)
 
These are the same people posting LOLz comments on videos of Brazillian criminal gangs hacking a live (and usually screaming) person to death with blunt machetes. You really think they'll be traumatised by some comparatively tame dashcam footage?
yea you're probably right to be fair. maybe have them rock up to the scene and start lifting body parts, that might just shake them from their malaise. i'm sure the emergency services would appreciate the help :p
 
quote one? i'm curious to see what you think is hysterical too. @DRZ has already shown they can't understand that speed can play a factor in turning minor issues into major ones, i'm betting you're in the same boat.

Any of the ones that quoted my post without taking time to digest what I actually said.
 
I often think about this, and to be honest given the amount of terrible drivers around, speeding is often unwise.

Having owned an M4 Competition, you can't even begin to legally exploit these cars on the road. Even my current 730d exceeds most speed limits without even trying.

And as people say, you are often stuck in a line of 15 cars and can't overtake even if you wanted to. It's fun now and again but you always feel as though you're holding these fast cars back...

That's not to say there isn't a time and a place, country roads when it isn't busy - but then I end up worrying about animals running out. :cry:

I tend to just waft around now and have the odd blast where appropriate on roads I'm very familiar with.
 
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