Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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You know, you can be both British and of Indian descent, I didn't say he wasn't British. I don't think we need to deny his cultural heritage.

When do you start counting from - go back 250,000 years and we're all African. Only difference is when our great-great.....great-grandparents decided to leave.


Anyway - back on topic....

Would love to see Ukraine have the ability to strike the BlackSe fleet that is launching missiles.

Can understand why attacks on targets in Russia would be akin to kicking a hornets nest, but the Black sea fleet has got to be fair game. Especially if it's in Ukrainian waters.
 
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This is a good website explaining more in detail.


 
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It'll push back logistic hubs even further from the frontline than they already are. Logistics wins wars and Russian supply lines are already a disaster.
I think I've said this before but military historians are probably going to be writing about Russia's invasion for years, and I suspect there are going to be a lot of studies of how the difference in logistics worked out and the effect they had.

Russia started this war with terrible logistics for an invasion, and it looks like it just keeps getting worse for them given they never had enough trucks and equipment to do "decentralised" logistics that could be run reasonably close to the front line, but not tied intrinsically to known, fixed, and extremely vulnerable infrastructure.

I mean the idea of using railways as logistics hubs is good and was key in WW1 (a narrow gauge railway near me, has from memory got at least one of the armoured WW1 supply trains), but that was in an era before truly long range artillery, when bombers were in their infancy, drones/guided munitions were a sci fi dream, and what trucks that were around were quite small, fragile, low capacity things that required a lot of support and were not much more versatile than the narrow gauge trains.
 
Interesting to see that the ex German Chancellor Gerhard Schroder was the guest of honour at Vladimir Putin's lavish Victory Day bash at the Russian Embassy in Berlin on Tuesday. A friend who used to be close to those around Schroder during his Chancellorship days thinks he may well be brokering the embargo breaking purchasing of Russian oil by Germany and the EU, whilst officially being denounced for his continuing friendship with Mr. Putin. Fascinating times.

According to The Guardian other prominent guests included members of both the so called far right and far left parties in Germany, so Putin shows Catholic tastes, politically :)

"Other guests included the leadership of the far-right populist Alternative für Deutschland party (AfD) and high-ranking members of the far-left Die Linke. Guests were served champagne and caviar, according to reports."
 
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So I watched a 9/11 documentary last night called 9/11: Inside the President's War Room and one thing Condoleezza Rice said was that during the attacks they brought the US military to it's highest state of readiness, they knew Russia would be aware of this and they didn't want to cause any tensions with Russia so she contacted Vladimir Putin and made him aware, Russia was running exercises at this time and he immediately told her that he was ending the exercises and obviously wanted to make it clear that Russia had nothing to do with the attacks. She said at that moment she knew that the Cold War had definitely ended. How times change. It's strange how we've got from the state of relations between the US and Russia in the early 2000's to what we have now.
 
So I watched a 9/11 documentary last night called 9/11: Inside the President's War Room and one thing Condoleezza Rice said was that during the attacks they brought the US military to it's highest state of readiness, they knew Russia would be aware of this and they didn't want to cause any tensions with Russia so she contacted Vladimir Putin and made him aware, Russia was running exercises at this time and he immediately told her that he was ending the exercises and obviously wanted to make it clear that Russia had nothing to do with the attacks. She said at that moment she knew that the Cold War had definitely ended. How times change. It's strange how we've got from the state of relations between the US and Russia in the early 2000's to what we have now.
Almost like they played us so that they could get away with invading peaceful countries.
 
Almost like they played us so that they could get away with invading peaceful countries.

Putin has been trying to get the other parts of the world to agree to not using the dollar any more as 'the' international currency of choice. They have for some time been trying to up their status quickly in the world, and the play for Ukraine was one of these moves. Ironically they would have done far better (IMO) if they kept on track with giving gas to Europe and playing the more peaceful mid game, but they've hosed that idea themselves now.
 
Almost like they played us so that they could get away with invading peaceful countries.

Ukraine wasn't at peace during the invasion, there had been an ongoing conflict between the government and separatist forces since 2014, the government in Kyiv backed by the EU and NATO was fighting Russian backed separatists in Eastern Ukraine. Clearly relations broke down at some point.
 
Interesting video on the rise of home made Ukrainian weapons that have come up as result of war. Details things like a custom OS for Android tablets that co-ordinates between drones and artillery batteries to correct firing patterns, use of drones as makeshift bombers, all-terrain buggies for rapid movement of troops around the battlefield and how they managed to get HARM missiles working on old Soviet jets.

 
Interesting video on the rise of home made Ukrainian weapons that have come up as result of war. Details things like a custom OS for Android tablets that co-ordinates between drones and artillery batteries to correct firing patterns, use of drones as makeshift bombers, all-terrain buggies for rapid movement of troops around the battlefield and how they managed to get HARM missiles working on old Soviet jets.

War is the great innovator. If it has been invented it will be improved, if not invented yet, it will be.
 
Ukraine wasn't at peace during the invasion, there had been an ongoing conflict between the government and separatist forces since 2014, the government in Kyiv backed by the EU and NATO was fighting Russian backed separatists in Eastern Ukraine. Clearly relations broke down at some point.

You mean the Russian little green men? Separatists armed by Putin. Putin's intelligence services stirring up trouble in these regions to get this desired effect. This was just stage 1 of his plan to invade Ukraine and place it under his control. Under Putin Russia has been at war for all but 2 years, and you wonder what the problem is. This is the man who blew up housing blocks in Moscow killing his own citizens and blamed the Chechens so he could invade.

I'm still amazed at how you defend this man and make excuses for him. Chris Wilson I get, Putin is his kind of leader but I thought you believed in liberal democracy.
 
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You mean the Russian little green men? Separatists armed by Putin. Putin's intelligence services stirring up trouble in these regions to get this desired effect. This was just stage 1 of his plan to invade Ukraine and place it under his control.

I'm still amazed at how you defend this man and make excuses for him. Chris Wilson I get, Putin is his kind of leader but I thought you believed in liberal democracy.

Yeah of course Putin's intelligence services were stirring trouble in largely Russian speaking provinces in Eastern Ukraine, and US intelligence services were almost certainly doing in the same in the rest of Ukraine. There was essentially a war of influence being fought in Ukraine which the West won.
 
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