Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Kind of related to that - it concerns me that if Ukraine does put Russia into a situation where they are faced with having to retreat from Ukraine, it would be inline with Putin's thinking to sell it as "see we were fighting Western aggression/invasion" and portray the defeat as due to fighting the whole of NATO by way of some kind of provocation which forces a confrontation with NATO even at the expense of 10s of thousands of Russian troops. Followed by then repositioning defensively on the western Russian borders.

Which then either stagnates into a frozen conflict with Russian relationships eventually normalising with countries not aligned with the West like India and China, etc. or less likely the country going to a wholesale war footing and rebuilding a large armed forces from scratch over time for an eventual push into Eastern Europe. Alternatively fragmenting into lots of smaller states and/or some being absorbed by their neighbours but I think that less likely, at least while Putin is alive, as those with the clout to do that are still either loyal to Putin or within reach of Putin, etc. things would likely become messy with Putin gone as I can imagine several factions falling on each other in a race to the top.
 
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The latest military assessment of the UK MoD regarding the state of the Russian army is basically a military catastrophe for Putin waiting to happen. Especially the last paragraph is decisive when preparing to counter a looming offensive.

Without an effective mobile reserve it is next to irrelevant how good your fortified positions are, considering the length of the frontline. Any fortified position can be overcome, especially with precision guided munitions, which Ukrainian forces have in many different types at their disposal. It is anyway impossible for the Russian military to man all those trenches and those mobilized are too incompetent and inexperienced for mobile warfare.

The is why I take more interest in the events around Vuhledar. They reflect more the type of upcoming battles rather than the urban fights in Mar'inka or Bakhmut, with the known disastrous results for the Russian army. And Vuhledar was constrained on a limited area, even enjoyed Russian superiority and first-strike advantages. Yet, it ended in catastrophe for them because everything what goes beyond to suicidely run into the next trench, where they anyway die, totally overwhelms them.

War can be too unpredictable to prognosticate very specific events and I'm keeping my estimated battle maps regarding the upcoming counteroffensive, which I created weeks ago, under the wraps for this very reason, but with that data at my hand and based on the developments of the last 15 months, and especially when Ukrainian forces perform as they have been doing until today, then I see no realistic way for the Russian army to even remotely to stop the storm which is inevitably coming.
 
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It is anyway impossible for the Russian military to man all those trenches and those mobilized are too incompetent and inexperienced for mobile warfare.

One of the reasons Western militaries and especially the likes of the UK do well, and especially is a problem for Russia with the large amount of inexperience/non-professional soldiers.
 
Since when did being in the EU have anything to do with how we respond militarily to a threat?

The EU is a defacto state, even if people refuse to accept that. This is why, even if the UK were better off economically, I would never vote to join it, and would vote leave given the same choice. The EU brings a lot of benefits, but the price being paid is too high. The EU is a large part of the conflict in Ukraine, they didn't consider that a conflict could arise as a result of letting Ukraine join, I don't think they viewed the potential for a war as remotely serious because they're generally quite naive people who live in a completely different world to the likes of Putin.
 
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Good to see you agree with my original point.
Lets go debate it in SC... wait...

[Edit] not going to engage any further as so not to drag the thread off topic. Plenty of people have already pointed out the flaws to JRMs claims about being unable to respond to the Ukrainian war if we were still in the EU.
 
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I think this is a good post, but really it misses the point a bit since the average Russian citizen didn't decide Stalins foreign policy, Russians paid a horrible price to defeat Nazi Germany. That's what their V Day parade is about. I think the Russians and Germans treated each other like animals, but learning about WW2 makes you understand why we is horrible and why we should be looking to end this one asap.

There is no ending this war unless Russia is defeated or Ukraine falls, those are the 2 choices because neither nation will accept anything less than victory. Its easy to sit there saying they should find peace behind a keyboard, its a different matter for Ukrainians fighting for their countries and cultures very survival.
 
There is no ending this war unless Russia is defeated or Ukraine falls, those are the 2 choices because neither nation will accept anything less than victory. Its easy to sit there saying they should find peace behind a keyboard, its a different matter for Ukrainians fighting for their countries and cultures very survival.


A very interesting post from you, I am rather surprised that you support a country physically fighting for its culture's survival. Do you project that same thought on to us English? We should fight to retain our English culture? I could imagine lots of shouts of Nationalism should I have suggested we fight for maintaining our own culture....

How do you suggest we fight to maintain our culture?
 
A very interesting post from you, I am rather surprised that you support a country physically fighting for its culture's survival. Do you project that same thought on to us English? We should fight to retain our English culture? I could imagine lots of shouts of Nationalism should I have suggested we fight for maintaining our own culture....

How do you suggest we fight to maintain our culture?

Interesting that you only focus on their culture.

Pretty sure the AFU are fighting not just for their culture, but for their right to exist as a sovereign independent nation and also to protect their citizens.

Take your culture war nonsense elsewhere.
 
A very interesting post from you, I am rather surprised that you support a country physically fighting for its culture's survival. Do you project that same thought on to us English? We should fight to retain our English culture? I could imagine lots of shouts of Nationalism should I have suggested we fight for maintaining our own culture....

How do you suggest we fight to maintain our culture?

You'll get an answer when you point put the tanks rolling in to British territory, and missiles are hitting our cities every day.

What absolute nonsense and attempt to peddle an obvious agenda.
 
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Interesting that you only focus on their culture.

Pretty sure the AFU are fighting not just for their culture, but for their right to exist as a sovereign independent nation and also to protect their citizens.

Take your culture war nonsense elsewhere.

I didn't bring the importance of fighting for one's culture up, and now when I comment (and agree) on its importance the matter becomes "inconvenient".
 
We could start by rounding up all the traitors that keep being apologists for a police state, that's pretty anti 1000 years of English culture, maybe intern them in a Pontins somewhere.
 
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