Warm hatch for <£13k

sx_turbo said:
As an FYI this is a problem with all direct injection cars, both petrol and diesel.

Petrol engines used to inject fuel through the intake manifold which washed the intake valves, however with the evolution of combustion engines and the ever increasing need for fuel efficiency and power manufacturers have decided direct injection is the way forward.

This unfortunately imo is actually is not necessarily true for the life of the engine due to this gumming up of the intake tract. As the engine ages and the intake tract carbons up the efficiency does decrease somewhat.

Lexus and new ford engines (believe it might be the 2.0 turbo) have additional injectors in the intake tract to remove the carbon, though I believe this only happens on long journeys and light throttle usage.

The EA888 engine isn't unique basically.

The best way to rectify it is to have regular walnut blasting every few years. It's a simple job and there is plenty of specialists up and down the country who can carry this out. Beauty of VW's is their is a lot of them and lots of knowledge to keep them tip top.
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Subaru have been using direct and port injection to prevent the problem for years. They put on on the engine in the GT86/BRZ which launched in 2012.

People don't consider this stuff when buying a new car. But years down the road it is a big thing.
 
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NVP said:
Lexus CT 200H ?
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I think the debate about whether power / 0-60 comes into the equation has been done earlier in the thread, but for me it's not going to fit the bill, he wants something with more poke than his 1.8T and is considering an Astra which has 50% more power than the Lexus.
A former colleague owned a CT200h which I rode in a few times and it was a nice car but didn't strike me as particularly exciting.
 
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The next most pokey Focus under the 2.0 ST engine is the 1.5T petrol with 180bhp. These seem like a good amount of power for the price. But still a bit less than the Astra and seem to be less well specced.

For me the only real contenders that fit my bill are the Astra, Leon or Ceed. The mini is a decent shout but they feel less practical than the former three. I could be wrong though!

Perhaps in boy-racer terminology, my requirements are for a "tepid" hatch rather than a warm hatch..
 
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Macky said:
The next most pokey Focus under the 2.0 ST engine is the 1.5T petrol with 180bhp. These seem like a good amount of power for the price. But still a bit less than the Astra and seem to be less well specced.

For me the only real contenders that fit my bill are the Astra, Leon or Ceed. The mini is a decent shout but they feel less practical than the former three. I could be wrong though!

Perhaps in boy-racer terminology, my requirements are for a "tepid" hatch rather than a warm hatch..
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I had a Mk.3 Focus Ecoboost with similar power for a few years and liked it very much. Let me see if I can find the PH thread on it.

 
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Macky said:
The next most pokey Focus under the 2.0 ST engine is the 1.5T petrol with 180bhp. These seem like a good amount of power for the price. But still a bit less than the Astra and seem to be less well specced.

For me the only real contenders that fit my bill are the Astra, Leon or Ceed. The mini is a decent shout but they feel less practical than the former three. I could be wrong though!

Perhaps in boy-racer terminology, my requirements are for a "tepid" hatch rather than a warm hatch..
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the MK3 is a 1.6 150 or 180 BHP
or after 2015 they changed it to 1.5

(same engine in the Fiesta ST)
 
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I have the Mk3 182 bhp version - it has plenty of power but its a pretty boring power delivery (very linear, smooth, and runs out of puff higher revs, unlike my previous Civic 1.8 VTI :) )

its very frugal though

on the country back roads which is 90% of my driving - I average about 31mpg (according to trip - it might be optimistic)

on a long motorway run I can get 46-48mpg

for the performance it is fantastic economy
 
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