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Can we get a picture of the moobs please to see if it would be as horrific as you are suggesting?Good grief. I’m not showing my moobs in public.
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Sorry, that's only allowed in the top secret adult sub, he's a prolific poster there already.Can we get a picture of the moobs please to see if it would be as horrific as you are suggesting?
Can we get a picture of the moobs please to see if it would be as horrific as you are suggesting?
Have we all found your fettish?
Maybe we need a moob off. I fancy my chances!
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Lol! Well you do get all sorts at Torture Garden
I can't join in a "moob off" coz I'd get banned for posting topless!
I think a "moob off" for you guys sounds good though!
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Ultra-Processed People: Why Do We All Eat Stuff That Isn’t Food … and Why Can’t We Stop? : Tulleken, Chris van: Amazon.co.uk: Books
Ultra-Processed People: Why Do We All Eat Stuff That Isn’t Food … and Why Can’t We Stop? : Tulleken, Chris van: Amazon.co.uk: Books
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Really good book.
A lot of you will know this already but it really does highlight a lot of issues with the food industry. This is also why things like vegan diets or alternative foods are not yet a great option as they're ultra processed and not actually all that good for you.
Diet needs to have an emphasis on whole foods whichever one you decide to go with. Easier said than done in industrialised world where we are surrounded by easy convenient food and most of us lack even basic of cooking skills.
Once you read about most of them like paleo, keto and even mote extreme things like carnivore diets, they all have overarching themes such as cutting out excess sugar, sweeteners and processed foods.
Reason why you'd probably feel good going from a bad diet on one of them om a short space of time (assuming you stick to the rules) but there's also a host of biological and psychological factors why some diets or types of eating (such as intermittent fasting) such certain people better than others.
Once you read about most of them like paleo, keto and even mote extreme things like carnivore diets, they all have overarching themes such as cutting out excess sugar, sweeteners and processed foods.
Reason why you'd probably feel good going from a bad diet on one of them om a short space of time (assuming you stick to the rules) but there's also a host of biological and psychological factors why some diets or types of eating (such as intermittent fasting) such certain people better than others.
Woo hoo! A month within the normal BMI range!
Might celebrate with new trousers!
Quite concerned about upping the calories, but the next step will be to increase exercise. Think I probably need to do that by continuing to embrace the new way of eating and up protein intake. Problems will arise if I’m doing long cycles as I’ve cur back on carbs significantly. I guess I just need to count / weigh them and take into account the predicted energy expenditure and not worry about it too much.
Question - if I’m going on a 90 minute / 25 mile cycle Strava reckons 1500 calories burnt. My current thinking is to take in an extra 500 calories the day before and another 500 the day after to compensate. Is this a reasonable approach? To reiterate, eating more is absolutely not a problem for me!
Might celebrate with new trousers!
Quite concerned about upping the calories, but the next step will be to increase exercise. Think I probably need to do that by continuing to embrace the new way of eating and up protein intake. Problems will arise if I’m doing long cycles as I’ve cur back on carbs significantly. I guess I just need to count / weigh them and take into account the predicted energy expenditure and not worry about it too much.
Question - if I’m going on a 90 minute / 25 mile cycle Strava reckons 1500 calories burnt. My current thinking is to take in an extra 500 calories the day before and another 500 the day after to compensate. Is this a reasonable approach? To reiterate, eating more is absolutely not a problem for me!
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Are you failry consistent on longer rides like that?
I would say that it would be best to factor it into your overly weekly calorie goal and then divide by 7, with a slight uplift on the actual day. My plan would probably be something like
You'll note that the new total is slightly lower, but that's on the assumption that Strava always overcalculates and the body is clever and will increase efficiency and probably use less than reported.
Obviously it's harder when it's not consistent, but when i was at peak activity i'd regularly do runs where i could burn 3-4k at weekends and it just wasn't feasable to consume that much on single days.
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@tom_nieto also consider that studies show when doing bouts of cardio, the body reduces NEAT so while you might burn 1000 calories during the exercise, it ends up being around 720 calories net burn overall once NEAT reduction is taken into account. I imagine however this tapers off as you enter very high levels of calorie burn, hard to find studies on the higher end however.
Thank you both for the replies!
@Martynt74 - I can plan a bit ahead, but sadly I’m not as consistent as I would like due to various time pressures! It’s a really good idea and Noom gives a calorie range to aim for. I’m going to move my goal from the bottom of the range to the top of that to hopefully maintain weight. If I go for weight maintenance modes then I think I will overestimate intake (not a problem if establishing consistency).
@SixTwoSix - absolutely agree and would probably aim to give back 2/3 of the suggested total rather than the full amount.
Going to stick to the current plan until holiday at the end of the month and go from there.
@Martynt74 - I can plan a bit ahead, but sadly I’m not as consistent as I would like due to various time pressures! It’s a really good idea and Noom gives a calorie range to aim for. I’m going to move my goal from the bottom of the range to the top of that to hopefully maintain weight. If I go for weight maintenance modes then I think I will overestimate intake (not a problem if establishing consistency).
@SixTwoSix - absolutely agree and would probably aim to give back 2/3 of the suggested total rather than the full amount.
Going to stick to the current plan until holiday at the end of the month and go from there.
Yep! This is why I love cycling!I'm my own worst enemy as when I do exercise and see 'X' amount of calories burnt, I feel like i've earnt a treat
Rowing is my bag, although my JTX died a few months back and i've been eyeballing a concept 2 lately - even though I can't afford it, my CC is calling.
You animal! I can happily run/cycle for hours (or at least i could when before my fitness was higher), but put me on a rower and 5k absolutely wipes me out!
I'm debating a water rower when i'm in Spain. Hoping that if i can build a shed with a big side window with a great view it'll be lovely and it'd be nice to hear the slushing water sounds as i expect i'd use it for longer sessions vs the benefits of the Concept 2 for intervals.
It helps i've got a flexible attachable arm that holds my tablet while I row, earbuds in, TV show on and the km just fall away.
and vomit is extra weakness leaving
I typically burn 1500 calories in a Zwift session, and don't see any benefit in eating 'in advance'. Your body has a pretty large energy reserve (I can't find the figure but think it's about 2000 from memory), so it shouldn't be needed unless you'd be starting exercise with a significant calorie deficit.
FWIW, I tend to exercise first thing in the morning before breakfast (I know...) and can start to tell the difference if I've been over around 1000 calories in deficit the day before.
It's probably better to fuel-up a bit before you exercise and then eat a bit extra afterwards only if you feel hungry (instead of planning to eat so many calories regardless). I guess everyone's metabolism is different, though, so steer it by how you feel.
Does anyone else find that a hard exercise session tends to suppress your appetite for a few hours? I find that if I exercise late afternoon then I don't tend to eat as much for the rest of the day.
I might sound like 'that guy' and a complete douche, but I would suggest that a 25 mile ride isn't a big ride and you should be fine to just head out and do it. I might take a gel (80 cals) with me to have about half way round.
I get that everyone has different abilities and I still remember planning in detail my first sportive, which was 50km, what would I eat the week running up to it and how would I prepare myself. But, I mean for the body coping on stored reserves, in reality it should cope with an ad hoc ride of 90 minutes just fine.
My usual marker is between 40 and 60 miles I'm looking for one coffee and cake stop, over 60 I'll probably have two stops.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I know they definitely say you could/should be able to cycle for an hour just using basic reserves in your body.
I forget where I heard/read it (possibly a podcast) where they said high intensity works like an appetite suppressant. If I go for a short 20-25 mile ride, low Z2 pace I try and throw a couple of minute efforts near the end. Definitely it works. There have been times I've almost skipped dinner as I've just not been hungry after a ride after work. Usually I'm after something as soon as it hits 5pm!