*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***
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Man of Honour
Yeah I think I'm a tad shorter, 184cm but close enough.
I eat about 4kcals a day. Macros, not entirely sure, quite carb heavy to be honest I'd say at least 50% of my calories come from carbs. We do eat well, lots of meats, fish, grains, fats and veg. It's the one thing we do spend a bit of money on, good quality meats from the butcher, and fresh foods. We do 3 small shops a week.
I'm a smidge taller and weighed under 110kg today at 109.8 for first time in a while. Dropped around 10kg over last 4 weeks, hating my life at 2,400 calories at the moment but have a holiday in less than 2 weeks now so as far as I'm concerned that my re-feed/maintenance week!
Once I get into the full swing of things with gym and running and get closer to target weight, which I'm not even sure what it is yet can start upping the calories.
Once I get into the full swing of things with gym and running and get closer to target weight, which I'm not even sure what it is yet can start upping the calories.
Man of Honour
2.4k isn't TOO bad - but yes I think I'd struggle, if you load yourself up on fibrous foods and protein it should satiate you longer.
Great job on the weight loss!
As you know weight isn't the only thing to focus on - it's how you feel and how you think you look too.
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2.4k isn't TOO bad - but yes I think I'd struggle, if you load yourself up on fibrous foods and protein it should satiate you longer.
Great job on the weight loss!
As you know weight isn't the only thing to focus on - it's how you feel and how you think you look too.
Yeah trouble with me is that I still carry some muscle and been semi back in the gym since Jan so hard to gauge progress strictly by scale. First 2 months my weight didn't shift at all, but you could see a difference in how my body looked so some fat loss must have been happening while muscle memory also kicked in.
Now I've approached it as almost a cut and dropped calories around 20% from maintenance while keeping protein as high as possible given switch to vegetarian diet at the same time.
In my late teens with gym and rugby I looked lean at 90kg but no idea what I'd look like around that now so keeping targets in place but flexible, finding that I'm more interested in endurance and energy levels a lot more anyway than looks.
Next big target is 100kg in next 3 months and I'm actually planning on increasing calories slightly as I go along since body will have less to pull from fat reserves.
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Caporegime
I seem to have got myself in a physical mess. For the past three years, I was just a runner (more jogger). I was never injured, I lost weight and I really enjoyed it. But then recently, I kept thinking about doing some strength training and other things to complement that. So I started a weight program and also yoga. It's been about two months and already I've knackered my quads and hip flexors. I can barely walk let alone run. I laid off the weights for a couple of weeks and things started to get better so I picked up the weights again yesterday. And then the quads started complaining again.
I'm wondering whether to just forget the lower body workouts and stick to core/upper body instead so I can actually go running again. Going to try a couple of miles light jogging on Saturday to see how I get on.
I'm wondering whether to just forget the lower body workouts and stick to core/upper body instead so I can actually go running again. Going to try a couple of miles light jogging on Saturday to see how I get on.
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Caporegime
One of the problems with most forms of training, particularly if you're older (I dunno how old you are, @ic1male) is that you can build muscular strength and cardiovascular fitness faster than you build joint strength and tendon/ligament thickness. I knackered up my right knee and left ankle pushing running too fast earlier in the year. I'm now building up annoyingly slowly again but at least I'm not hurting myself.
My advice - and I'm not an expert - would be to keep things so you can run. I would rest up until you're feeling better. Then introduce running at a rate that feels comfortable and then return to weights and yoga at a more gentle pace, and listen to your body if its starts hurting. Better to get lower gains than knacker yourself up seeking after peek performance (unless that's really what you're in to, but it doesn't sound like you are).
My advice - and I'm not an expert - would be to keep things so you can run. I would rest up until you're feeling better. Then introduce running at a rate that feels comfortable and then return to weights and yoga at a more gentle pace, and listen to your body if its starts hurting. Better to get lower gains than knacker yourself up seeking after peek performance (unless that's really what you're in to, but it doesn't sound like you are).
Is it muscular soreness (DOMS) or general pain from the exercises that you're suffering with? As a new lifter muscular soreness can be debilitating at times, especially legs, which seems to be the issue.
Yeah, I feel like we could do with better info around what this means?
Caporegime
I thought it was DOMS at first but I woke up about three weeks into the programme and overnight suddenly found walking down the stairs tortuous. Stupidly, I did run a few times even though with every stroke of my left leg, I had a dull ache rather than pain (such as the agony you’d get with sciatica). After 10 minutes it disappeared but I guess this is the body’s own analgesics kicking in.
As I say things are on the mend, I’ve been out walking and it’s nowhere near as bad as it was. I don’t think there’s any serious tears or what have you or else I’d still be limping about.
The yoga is unexpectedly difficult as well. Lots of strange positions and stretches that I’m not used to which could explain the hip flexor soreness.
This all bloody stems from me having a mid life crisis thinking I’m a teenager again! Do I really think I can go from an almost 50yo, 18 stone blob to looking like Brad Pitt in Fight Club? Because that’s what my mind is preaching.
As I say things are on the mend, I’ve been out walking and it’s nowhere near as bad as it was. I don’t think there’s any serious tears or what have you or else I’d still be limping about.
The yoga is unexpectedly difficult as well. Lots of strange positions and stretches that I’m not used to which could explain the hip flexor soreness.
This all bloody stems from me having a mid life crisis thinking I’m a teenager again! Do I really think I can go from an almost 50yo, 18 stone blob to looking like Brad Pitt in Fight Club? Because that’s what my mind is preaching.
Yeah that doesn't sound good. Sounds like you need advice from someone qualified, it could be a number of things, and providing medical advice on here is frowned upon.
My original go-to thought was you need to squat more, but don't do that
My original go-to thought was you need to squat more, but don't do that
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Caporegime
Are you doing yoga as part of a class or on your own? If the former, try talking to the instructor?
Caporegime
Caporegime
I've just had an epiphany. Just completed a 10 minute yoga class and paid attention to my body moreso than what the instructor was doing. I immediately twigged that I bet it's the yoga that's done it. Instead of taking these stretches and poses nice and gently, I've been going a bit too full on. Definitely overstretching instead of easing into a "easy" position, I've been going further than I really should. I bet it's nothing to do with the weight training at all but overstretching in yoga and then it's been exacerbated with load bearing. Goddamn it. I'll rest now for a couple of weeks and just get back into the running and then start weights and yoga again but with a lot less overzealousness.
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What yoga type are you doing?I thought it was DOMS at first but I woke up about three weeks into the programme and overnight suddenly found walking down the stairs tortuous. Stupidly, I did run a few times even though with every stroke of my left leg, I had a dull ache rather than pain (such as the agony you’d get with sciatica). After 10 minutes it disappeared but I guess this is the body’s own analgesics kicking in.
As I say things are on the mend, I’ve been out walking and it’s nowhere near as bad as it was. I don’t think there’s any serious tears or what have you or else I’d still be limping about.
The yoga is unexpectedly difficult as well. Lots of strange positions and stretches that I’m not used to which could explain the hip flexor soreness.
This all bloody stems from me having a mid life crisis thinking I’m a teenager again! Do I really think I can go from an almost 50yo, 18 stone blob to looking like Brad Pitt in Fight Club? Because that’s what my mind is preaching.
Caporegime
A mixture of normal flow, slow flow, restorative and yin yoga. I definitely don't like the normal/fast stuff though, I like to stay in a posture for more than a few seconds.
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Are you going to classes or doing it via online?
The best yoga if you are new to it is hatha yoga because it focuses on doing the moves correctly.
Just means that you are less likely to damage yourself and to get the most out of it.
I always remember my yoga teacher saying that if you are doing the move and you are not feeling anything during the stretch, you are doing it wrong.
But if you are really hurting whilst doing it, then you are also doing it wrong.
You want to feel a gentle stretch but nothing more.
Also if you are holding a move and you start shaking, to stop, coz that is when your muscles are over working and you are not getting any further benefits.
Caporegime
Ah very useful. It’s all Peloton app online, they do much more than just the bike thing now. And the last bit about muscles shaking does happen, yes. I then tend to wobble over and probably cause that overstretch.
so heres my input, dont under estimate walking and steps.......
Before covid i had commitments which led me to walking around 20000 a day. covid hit and then i got bad back and breathing issues from a osephegus issue.
went from 12 stone to 20 in 2 years....
SO just get out there and walk!
Before covid i had commitments which led me to walking around 20000 a day. covid hit and then i got bad back and breathing issues from a osephegus issue.
went from 12 stone to 20 in 2 years....
SO just get out there and walk!
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I'm guessing you wouldn't be keen on going to a class then?
Even if it was just a few as a compromise?
I just worry that part of the reason you are so sore from the yoga is incorrect positioning.
And yes, a good session will leave you sore and uncomfortable but not to the extent that you are describing.
This is something a teacher can be much better placed to help you with.
The best thing about a teacher is they can help you extend your stretches but safely and not in a way which could really injure yourself.
Are you warming up and warming down and relaxing properly afterwards too?
Coz that will make a huge difference too.