When are you going fully electric?

With my driving style I don't have the urge to go full electric as my car is mostly weekend shopping and daily pick up family from nearby station. 40 mile range with my Ampera battery and charging at night at 7.5p

I have been to petrol station a hand full of times in the past 2 years, mostly for long trips and airport runs.

I got this Ampera cheap at £9000 2 years ago with 15000 miles only, will move to full electric when a 250 mile plus range EV become £9000 ... dreaming :)
 
mitch212k said:
The infrastructure just isn't there. I keep reading horror stories about queues for electric chargers @ service stations and similar. Maybe one day ....
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the problem is so much of the press have an agenda. the infrastructure could be better, it's certainly not perfect and it's expensive as well..... but it IS there you just need to have a tiny bit more organisation for long journeys. it's not for everyone but IF you have a drive way I think a long range EV can work for 90% of people for their main car..... and for 99% of people as their 2nd smaller car.

so many of the "I tried an EV and it's rubbish" gutter press articles generally they either use a totally inappropriate car or it's like they almost went out of their way to make every school boy error to make sure they made it hard for themselves.
 
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China Man said:
With my driving style I don't have the urge to go full electric as my car is mostly weekend shopping and daily pick up family from nearby station. 40 mile range with my Ampera battery and charging at night at 7.5p

I have been to petrol station a hand full of times in the past 2 years, mostly for long trips and airport runs.

I got this Ampera cheap at £9000 2 years ago with 15000 miles only, will move to full electric when a 250 mile plus range EV become £9000 ... dreaming :)
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but you ARE electric for 90% of the time. I wouldn't get a new EV either if I had your car.
 
mitch212k said:
oof - and let's not even start with home charging for those without a driveway. 2030 seems a very ambitious target at this point!!
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I think he was being sarcastic because that was a petrol queue.
I do agree those without a driveway an EV is a totally different proposition.
not something I would entertain then.
it's possible. People can and DO manage it but I wouldn't .
 
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can't see it being long before, similar to the petrol forecourt pricing investigation, govt(Keir in manifesto?) investigate forecourt unit electricity pricing, with a levelling up agenda;
like Amazon, forecourt companies can't just hide and say we are making no profit because we are investing in expansion, and also, Amazon has it's own renewables providers,
giving price decoupling - situation which firecourt companies benefit from, too.
(could have daily forecourt pricing - I'll top up today because it's sunny/windy)
 
jpaul said:
can't see it being long before, similar to the petrol forecourt pricing investigation, govt(Keir in manifesto?) investigate forecourt unit electricity pricing, with a levelling up agenda;
like Amazon, forecourt companies can't just hide and say we are making no profit because we are investing in expansion, and also, Amazon has it's own renewables providers,
giving price decoupling - situation which firecourt companies benefit from, too.
(could have daily forecourt pricing - I'll top up today because it's sunny/windy)
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Investigation into the supply of electric vehicle chargepoints on or near motorways

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Been there done that, next
 
Words of warning, keep away from mfg chargers. Tried charging the weekend and just wouldn't work so ended up leaving. Now appears they've taken a £40 pre-authoristion. Reading online they also take ages to refund....
 
Kill_Phil said:
Words of warning, keep away from mfg chargers. Tried charging the weekend and just wouldn't work so ended up leaving. Now appears they've taken a £40 pre-authoristion. Reading online they also take ages to refund....
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link your credit card rather than debit card, no money goes that way.
 
chanjy said:
People forget a Mondeo used to be an aspirational car, as did a BMW 3 series. Just time moves on

Tesla is something people see as quite high end at the moment, but in 20 years time we might look back at them the same way we view a Mondeo now and something else will take its place.
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Maybe because it's a second car currently, but in no way would I say my model s is aspirational. It's dull as ditchwater and is just a safe and practical car. I would already view it as a mondeo.
 
smilertoo said:
There's no way in hell they're going to get anywhere near their goal by 2030, not even by 2040. Electric cars are white elephants that only move the pollution, China has vast EV graveyards already and we're only just starting to use them.
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2040 yes. 2030..not at this rate.

For all new cars to be EV by 2030...a lot of. Progress needs to be made.

Used ICE cars are soon going to become like gold dust
 
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As soon as they remove cash the government can decide when and where you're allowed to charge your EV, and i dont think the rich are going to be told they're not allowed because the grid is stressed.
 
413x said:
2040 yes. 2030..not at this rate.

For all new cars to be EV by 2030...a lot of. Progress needs to be made.

Used ICE cars are soon going to become like gold dust
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It's 2035 for full EV on new cars sold.

2030 is just when full petrol or diesel cars will stop being sold.
 
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steve5424 said:
It's 2035 for full EV on new cars sold.

2030 is just when full petrol or diesel cars will stop being sold.
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The gov need to really think about this. I can't understand how people with in street parking but can't park at thier house are going to manage.

2030... No new petrol or diesel... I wonder
 
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smilertoo said:
There's no way in hell they're going to get anywhere near their goal by 2030, not even by 2040. Electric cars are white elephants that only move the pollution, China has vast EV graveyards already and we're only just starting to use them.
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Got any links to these vast EV graveyards? Everyone always talks about them, but when ever I look in detail it's all fake narrative with older superseded models, crash damage with a sprinkling of unsellable western cars nobody will buy in China. How many cars are lined up in the UK? Do we have vast car graveyards of unsold new cars? As for moving the pollution. Isn't it better to move it elsewhere in the knowledge that it means a reduction in pollution over all with an increase in air quality for many?

 
413x said:
The gov need to really think about this. I can't understand how people with in street parking but can't park at thier house are going to manage.

2030... No new petrol or diesel... I wonder
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In short, using the public network which is growing rapidly.

You can still buy a brand new PHEV to 3035, 12 years away, those cars have 12-18 year normal lifespan and while it defeats the point, you don’t actually need to plug them in. The bigger issue in 2045 will be finding somewhere to buy petrol/diesel that isn’t a truck stop. Norway has pretty much hit the U.K. 2035 target already.

To add some perspective 2 years ago the vast majority of service stations had 2 50kw rapid chargers (ignoring Tesla), the vast majority have 6-12 150-350 kw rapids. Exeter services has gone from 2-3 50kw units to 56 250kw-350kw units (last few not switched on yet but it will be any day now).
 
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