Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Somebody should tell Shoigu that a lot of those 7,600 weapons that have been destroyed were in fact missiles that were successfully intercepted by Russian tanks, BMP's and Helicopters.
I suppose after getting your arse handed to you for 560 days out of a 3 day special military operation, you have to claim even the most imaginary wins where you can.
It’s pretty safe to assume that when ever this nonsense is coming out of Russia it is to deflect from exactly the opposite of what is really going on!
'Dying by the dozens every day' - Ukraine losses climb
Ukraine will not disclose its death count, but the BBC’s Quentin Sommerville witnesses the mounting toll.
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The BBC also reported Ukraines losses are very high. They are likely losing hundreds of troops per day. Based on the BBC article Ukraine has taken 25% casualties amongst it's standing army of 500,000. They do not have the men to support these kinds of losses, the Russians do.
The russians vant sustain the loses either, its closing on peak ww2 numbers'Dying by the dozens every day' - Ukraine losses climb
Ukraine will not disclose its death count, but the BBC’s Quentin Sommerville witnesses the mounting toll.
The BBC also reported Ukraines losses are very high. They are likely losing hundreds of troops per day. Based on the BBC article Ukraine has taken 25% casualties amongst it's standing army of 500,000. They do not have the men to support these kinds of losses, the Russians do.
'Dying by the dozens every day' - Ukraine losses climb
Ukraine will not disclose its death count, but the BBC’s Quentin Sommerville witnesses the mounting toll.
The BBC also reported Ukraines losses are very high. They are likely losing hundreds of troops per day. Based on the BBC article Ukraine has taken 25% casualties amongst it's standing army of 500,000. They do not have the men to support these kinds of losses, the Russians do.
The Ukrainians are pushing right upto the strongest parts of the Russian defences now and still taking ground. TBH I think the Ukrainians might have opened up some holes in them. We will have to see what happens in the next weeks and how heavy the cost has been to the Russians.
It seems Russian forces are pretty depleted.
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So according to this map, they've taken back a little ground, but we're in September and it's cost tens of thousands of lives, this doesn't represent the imminent collapse of the Russian forces, and all of these gains can be reversed over Winter. The longer this goes on the stronger Russia will get. They will mobilise more troops and dig in further. The current strategy is not working.
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This has happened ever single time in the history of man, when one party becomes an aggressor and starts taking the lands of a second party, the second party has to give up and lose the land or stand up for themselves, I mean literally since the caveman era.'Dying by the dozens every day' - Ukraine losses climb
Ukraine will not disclose its death count, but the BBC’s Quentin Sommerville witnesses the mounting toll.
The BBC also reported Ukraines losses are very high. They are likely losing hundreds of troops per day. Based on the BBC article Ukraine has taken 25% casualties amongst it's standing army of 500,000. They do not have the men to support these kinds of losses, the Russians do.
What history also shows us is that trying to appease doesn't work. Only standing up and trying to defend your lands and people gives you a hope.
History has also shown us that those who lose or concede tend to then suffer just as bad, if not worse, but over a very long sustained period.
There are very few countries who would not stand up to aggression. I would expect the UK would be exactly the same as Ukraine if the roles were reversed.
The Ukrainians heavily support the defence. Its their land, their blood being spilled. If they want to fight on, all and every right thinking person and country should support them in doing so.
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So according to this map, they've taken back a little ground, but we're in September and it's cost tens of thousands of lives, this doesn't represent the imminent collapse of the Russian forces, and all of these gains can be reversed over Winter. The longer this goes on the stronger Russia will get. They will mobilise more troops and dig in further. The current strategy is not working.
Read the detailed analysis I put up yesterday.
The current strategy is working. But it needs more, time, arms and yes lost lives.
Unless Putin withdraws of course.
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So according to this map, they've taken back a little ground, but we're in September and it's cost tens of thousands of lives, this doesn't represent the imminent collapse of the Russian forces, and all of these gains can be reversed over Winter. The longer this goes on the stronger Russia will get. They will mobilise more troops and dig in further. The current strategy is not working.
Ukrainians have been pushing into and past the Russian defence lines and mine fields for a while now. While the Ukrainians are moving forward and soundly beating the Russians they should keep pushing and forcing the Russian to retreat.
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Less men, less armour, less aircraft, economy in the toilet - stronger every day.
Not to mention joining North Korea and Iran as the most sanctioned and isolated country on the planet. The rest of the world hasn't even started with the sanctions it can impose
Problem is unless the West step things up it is a war of attrition Ukraine can't win. Russia might have lost a lot of stuff but they still have an available manpower pool far in excess of Ukraine, Russia can still grow far more into this war depending on how far they are prepared to mobilise and right now Putin looks like he'll go as far as it takes whatever the cost.
The West needs to be stepping up so that Ukraine can be enabled to fight a more sophisticated fight than Russia can even dream of.
Don't disagree that the west needs to up their game, but Russia cant just keep mobilising and conscripting as eventually they will reach people who live in Moscow and St Petersburg and that will create all sorts of domestic issues, also what is Russia going to arm them, and supply them with? They are perilously short as it is and can't simply mobilise 400k without the means to outfit them.
Assuming the Ukrainians don’t force the Russians into performing more acts of “good will” the fighting will become more condensed and strategies will need to change. Bombing campaigns etc.
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