Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Russia confirms the success of the Ukrainian strike on the dry dock in Sevastopol.


If I was a Russian, I'd be feeling pretty nervous right now.

Roar87 said:
NATO was supposed to be an answer to Communist expansion
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It was certainly very good at that. Now it's proving to be an answer to Russian expansion as well.

Roar87 said:
There was definitely an opportunity for Russia and the West to reconcile after the USSR collapsed, but instead we're here.
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Which is entirely Russia's fault.
 
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XPE said:

Maybe someone giving Ukraine too much credit, maybe not.
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How many times have Ukraine proven they are not to be underestimated.
I wouldn't put it past them, they are also still likely receiving advice/assistance in strategic planning. What they then do with that is up to Ukraine, although they seem to be picking up momentum fast. The fact that we are seeing real-time shaping operations make way for targeted strikes that puts increasing pressure on an already difficult situation in Crimea is pretty impressive.

Though what I find more and more interesting is that a year and a half in and we are seeing a more and more reduced capability to counter these strikes. They have no answer and no apparent ability to successfully/impactfully return the favor on Ukrainian military targets. I don't know if it's lack of intelligence, or lack of precision strike capability. Surely they would have better impact on the conflict using these drones, cruise missiles, ASM's, ALBM's to strike strategic Ukrainian military targets. But no... They strike civilian flats, shopping malls.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Russia and the west were reconciling until Putin came to power.
Its hardly a secret that his ambition was to restore the USSR in effect.

Russia had every opportunity to do all you say. The blame lies 100% with Putin.
But then irrationality and the goals of a small number of individuals are behind all wars and all conflict.
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The rot had set in before Putin, he just used to it his advantage.

There is a good series on iPlayer called Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone that shows the downfall of the USSR and the incredible amount of corruption that came in its wake, could the West have done more and would that help have been accepted is debatable. The state of the country though and what life was like does show why the older Russian population probably isn't moved by the impact of sanctions as they've been through far worse.

Doesn't excuse their current actions though and the blame of that is on Putin like you say
 
One I've not seen before - a NATO RQ-4D drone flying the Finnish/Russian border - probably in reaction to Russia reinforcing their bases there.
 
Rroff said:
Latest comments albeit vague from Ukraine's air force is that they used Storm Shadow/SCALP launched from planes.
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If true they must have degraded the Russian air defence somewhat to get close enough?

Edit: just seen the oil rig take over removed some russian radar
 
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Hades said:
Yep, it looks like Storm Shadow.

news.sky.com

British cruise missiles were used in significant Ukrainian attack on Russian submarine

The UK gave Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine's armed forces earlier in the year. They are able to be fired by Ukrainian aircraft, with a range of more than 150 miles.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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How long until Putin threatens revenge on Britain for enabling the loss of two significant Russian military assets?

[Edit] That's a couple of $billion loss in a single night now Russian has confirmed they are both complete losses
 
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ci_newman said:
How long until Putin threatens revenge on Britain for enabling the loss of two significant Russian military assets?

[Edit] That's a couple of $billion loss in a single night now Russian has confirmed they are both complete losses
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Him and his properganda cronies have been threatening the UK since February last year
 
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ci_newman said:
How long until Putin threatens revenge on Britain for enabling the loss of two significant Russian military assets?

[Edit] That's a couple of $billion loss in a single night now Russian has confirmed they are both complete losses
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Has the sub been confirmed as a complete loss too then? That’s very interesting
 
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How do you even repair a hole in a submarine? I assume you can't just weld some steel over the hole because of the pressures involved at depth?
 
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Has the sub been confirmed as a complete loss too then? That’s very interesting
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Russian authorities confirm the Minsk landing ship and and Rostov-on-Don submarine were "completely destroyed" in last nights attack on the RusNavy base in occupied Sevastopol, Crimea, Ukraine. In addition, the city of Sevastopol devolved into complete chaos last night resulting in the friendly-fire deaths of local police and military personnel.<<Two ships have been lost forever, many dead and fire on their own.

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Secondly, the missiles completely destroyed two of our vessels – the large landing ship Minsk and the submarine Rostov-on-Don. Both vessels that were here for repair are not subject to restoration. In addition, two more vessels have been damaged at the Sevmorzavod, and it may be possible to restore them. The interlocutors refused to say the names of these ships, "so that the enemy would not receive valuable information about the result of his terrorist attack."
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ci_newman said:
How long until Putin threatens revenge on Britain for enabling the loss of two significant Russian military assets?

[Edit] That's a couple of $billion loss in a single night now Russian has confirmed they are both complete losses
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Probably a fair cost to just to dismantle and move them from the dock.
 
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Hades said:
How do you even repair a hole in a submarine? I assume you can't just weld some steel over the hole because of the pressures involved at depth?
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I assume the hull is not a single solid piece of metal but instead made up of joined plates, so I guess to replace the damaged sections would required partially taking the submarine apart and rebuilding it with new sections.. it sounds like a lot of expensive work
 
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