Correct, if I saw someone steal my car I wouldn't expect that person to be punished by society without me proving my case.
Russell Brand.
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Correct, if I saw someone steal my car I wouldn't expect that person to be punished by society without me proving my case.
Suspended without pay for an indeterminate amount of time? That's all good as far as you're concerned then?
Mid _gen the office rapist.
Even proved innocent your job there is over.
It's nasty business.
It is scary that, I think, any determined person could ruin another's reputation given a bit of planning.
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While I’m sure he is guilty, the fact YouTube have basically removed him till proven guilty in a court of law for what are till now unproven accusations is wrong and they need punished.
You would be suspended on full pay. That is not what has happened here. He has been stopped from earning money simply based on (so far unproven) accusations.
How many people would you be comfortable with causing you to be suspended (on full pay)? Three? Two? Why not just one person or is one persons accusation less valid than two people? Where is the line?
Now how many people would you be comfortable with causing you to be suspended without pay? Still multiple people? Maybe one person? Where is the line?
I assume you mean being a bit touchy with women. I agree and wouldn't do that myself. But there are other behaviours which can cause accusations such as being a rich, being a well known person and being a person with the wrong "views". Maybe the accusations are because of the former, but maybe they are because of the latter. We can't suggest people must have the "right" views otherwise they should expect accusations.
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I have no opinion on whether hes guilty or not, I wasn't there and don't know the facts, but after listening to the way this was being reported on the radio this monring I do agree the reporting of this and the seeming desperation to essentially finish the guy before anything is proven is wrong. Unfortunately news these days is a business not a service and calm reasoned reporting doesn't sell.
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He's self employed, so nobody to suspend him except himeself. His "clients" can drop him if they like, that's just business.
I'm sorry I just can't
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A pattern is always more valid than a one off, especially when it comes to unsubstantiated claims. We know you are at the precipice of CT Hades based on how deep you swallowed the 15minute cities thing, so this post is unsurprising.
He's been accused of a lot more than being 'a bit touchy'.
It is entirely OK for an employer to decide they don't want an alleged sex offender strolling around the workplace. I would absolutely expect anyone in that position to be suspended.
Which is all rather besides the point. RB hasn't lost his job. Google, or more accurately, advertisers that pay Google, don't want their brands to be associated with him while these very serious accusations are under investigation.
Do people think advertisers should be FORCED to support him or something?
He hasn't been removed, he's only been demonetised. Big brands are hypersensitive to controversy, they always have been.
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Lol which 'researchers' does he employ?
You can find his company: Pablo Diablo's Legitimate Business Firm Ltd on companies house.
His company has 3 employees, including him. Last year it added £2,000,000 to the 'cash in hand' bank balance (now £4,000,000)
And according to the rags, he has a net worth of £10-20 million pounds.
You telling me he can't pay 2 employees with any of that retained money?
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I think you've accused me of being a CT nut in the past but I expect that of you. I don't want to derail this thread on the 15 mins city topic so I'm happy if you want to revive that thread and we can continue debating there. Please don't derail this one.
I'm sure he will, but he can't do it indefinitely with no revenue stream
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i must admit i am very uncomfortable with the guilty until proven innocent attitude people have.... (and also there is no smoke wihout fire etc) . is he a wrongun? maybe but is it right to ruin someones life because of a maybe?
edit.... oops, i initially said exactly the opposite of what i meant, i have fixed it now.
that said i also realise how difficult a situation it is, and you equally dont want a sexual predator potentially being shielded and you cant force a company to sponser someone.
edit.... oops, i initially said exactly the opposite of what i meant, i have fixed it now.
that said i also realise how difficult a situation it is, and you equally dont want a sexual predator potentially being shielded and you cant force a company to sponser someone.
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I think claims his life has been ruined are a bit OTT.
His life will only be ruined if he's found guilty. His reputation and earnings will take a dent but he will still be in a position to make far more money than most of us can.
When someone like Alex Jones can still make a living after what he did, there's more than enough space for Brand to continue on.
It isn't really about "innocent until proven guilty" etc.
He is in the media/an entertainer/influencer (i don't know what you'd really call him - a "personality" i suppose...), which naturally makes everything he does insanely awkward once multiple rape and sexual assault allegations come through. It is very understandable as to why the companies that give him money will cut ties with him at this stage.
Let's remember this is not just some one off/some single person accusing him with no evidence. There are multiple, credible allegations.
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