COVID-19 (Coronavirus) discussion

Freefaller said:
Was it actually or the co-morbidities that the people that caught covid? I think it's fair to say that covid added complications and caused indirect deaths.
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I tried to explain this back in 2020 and several times after that.
eg Patient has a traumatic RTA and ends up in ICU however all Clinicians agree that patient will survive with plenty of rehabilitation.
Patient catches Covid in ICU and dies - Covid killed them.

Freefaller said:
Actually many people I knew who had cancer died because their bodies were destroyed by cancer but it was pneumonia or another issue that took their lives. The cancer was the major contributor however but they may well have survived - we just don't know.
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My Mum had a few years left with COPD but caught pneumonia and that is what she died from.
Of course on the Death Certificate it mentions she had severe COPD.

I think the thing that was upsetting people was the News and their Death Headlines every day saying "Died with Covid present during the last 28 days".
Some of those cases were people like my Dad who was very poorly, caught Covid in the ward and then died.
However we were told that Covid had no effect on his death, he had got it very mild and he was still going to die.
On the Death Certificate the first 3 Causes of Death are to do with what he died of but number 4 does say Covid Present.
Now this would be added to those figures on the News under the title "Died with Covid present during the last 28 days" which was wrong in my opinion.
 
There is some interesting early trial results with using monoclonal antibody infusions on people with long covid.

I'm not sure of the percentage, just that it is high, of people starting the infusions have recovered fully within a few days, even people with severe symptoms.

This appears to be a good step forward. The only issue really is the trials are currently scheduled to last until 2025. Though I don't think they were expecting these results.

Just a link to the trial I'm talking about. I was referring to the first early results.


www.aeriumtx.com

Born out of Omega push for pandemic treatments, Aerium Therapeutics enters long Covid R&D - Aerium Therapeutics

By Kyle LaHucik Associate Editor Endpoints News Aerium Therapeutics, which Omega Funds seeded in 2021 and unveiled in spring 2022 to take on Covid-19 with new monoclonal antibodies, will attempt to treat long Covid with a Phase II trial set to start later this month. The move comes as the...
www.aeriumtx.com www.aeriumtx.com
 
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Guessing the surge in September are schools/colleges going back?

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Duke said:
Guessing the surge in September are schools/colleges going back?

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I'd be interested in the age range of that surge, also admitted with or without covid and vaxxed or not vaxxed

Plus, what does it work out as a % of the population
 
Only felt rubbish after the first one all the rest have been no problem, will definitely continue to get them.
 
Flu and Covid double jab for me as soon as they're available.

I had the double vaccination last year and had to take the following morning off sick as it hit me like a train and wiped me out for abut 18 hours (I'm 59).
But it was a hell of a lot better than when I had "full fat" covid during the first outbreak back in March 2019. I was off work for 3 weeks and drifted off to sleep of an evening, not entirely convinced that I was going to wake up the following morning. Took me 5 months to feel normal again.
 
gEd said:
Flu and Covid double jab for me as soon as they're available.

I had the double vaccination last year and had to take the following morning off sick as it hit me like a train and wiped me out for abut 18 hours (I'm 59).
But it was a hell of a lot better than when I had "full fat" covid during the first outbreak back in March 2019. I was off work for 3 weeks and drifted off to sleep of an evening, not entirely convinced that I was going to wake up the following morning. Took me 5 months to feel normal again.
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You mean 2020?
 
Duke said:
Guessing the surge in September are schools/colleges going back?
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Sadly no one regularly publishing that detailed data now. Out of those I know who've had it in recent weeks it has mostly been people of all ages coming back from holiday but mostly families.

The heat map for last week shows cases clustered around public school and university locations i.e. areas with a lot of student housing, etc. though as well as randomly in more general areas.
 
Mildly interesting read regarding flu:

arstechnica.com

After COVID killed off a flu strain, annual flu shots are in for a redesign

It's TBD how and when a reformulation will happen, but it's now in the works.
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They are making a big deal about flu where I work currently and flu shots, not sure why, during COVID it seemed like someone higher up in the company had an inside track on government decision making so don't know if they know something we don't. Strangely doesn't extend to trying to prevent outbreaks at work any more, back to the old attitudes of people should try and make it in even if fully symptomatic and hence usually infectious - even if with many of these diseases people can be infectious 24-48 hours before symptoms.
 
Rroff said:
Sadly no one regularly publishing that detailed data now. Out of those I know who've had it in recent weeks it has mostly been people of all ages coming back from holiday but mostly families.

The heat map for last week shows cases clustered around public school and university locations i.e. areas with a lot of student housing, etc. though as well as randomly in more general areas.
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France have just closed 17 schools for deep cleaning due to insect infestation (bedbugs). That'll be all we need bedbugs with flu, or covid.
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I hate covid and long covid.

There is a girl in the Netherlands who has long covid severely. She is literally lying in a room with blackened windows, as her eyes feel strained at light. She can't watch tv, or sit at her computer. She can only type on her phone in short bursts.

Her doctors are totally dismissive. She had to move back in with her parents, who act like she's putting it on.

Now she's talking about voluntary euthanasia!

I hate covid and the dismissive nature of many doctors and consultants when it comes to attitudes that belong in another era.

I feel very bad for her. She's not the only person I've seen struggling.

I'm struggling. But I'm used to it. When a person goes from being sporty to being unable to survive without the help of others it is psychologically damaging.
 
I hate how dismissive people are about it and the resumption of attitudes of people should try getting into work even if the have COVID, etc. - I've 3 friends on Facebook whose partners were terminally ill before COVID but expected to live several years, who after COVID just couldn't fight their existing condition any more and passed away within weeks, it is awful to see the surviving partner trying to come to terms with it.

There seems to be a significant ignorance of the implications of COVID being able to infect a much wider part of the body than similar diseases in common circulation which rarely infect outside of the respiratory tract (often the upper) and if they do rarely to any significant degree.
 
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