we survive with granny charger with 2 EVs currently. We're organised about the garaging overnight, but its never been an issue with a 2017 Leaf and an MG 5
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Yeah ok, might just see how we get on then. Decent wall charger is about 1.3K plus fitting.
I have the Enyaq, I get 300+ miles on long drives regularly.
Enyaq whilst the same platform as the ID4 but it’s just not the same as the ID4. ID4 has much higher consumption.
My long term consumption is currently 4.1miles/kWh that’s 9000 miles and almost 12m ownership. That gives the car range easily over 300miles.
I think the issue with Tesla is they are REALLY optimistic.
I think they are about £900 now. At least got mine fitted through octopus for £800. They only offered Ohme at the time but they also has zappi and others on offer now
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Yeah its a crazy bill to swallow. Unless you are doing big miles and avoiding a rapid charge (work etc) then it's just not worth it (other than for convenience).
I believe he's in NZ.
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Yeah I'm talking NZ peso.
I make that $1300 about £625, so plus fitting is probably comparable. Do you have cheap electricity rates there, special overnight rates etc, as it might pay for itself quickly enough.
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Cheapest "Off Peak" rate i can find is about $0.146 kWh.
It's really not, the WLTP test cycle is the WLTP test cycle.
Do you drive below the posted speed limits or just on slow A roads?
I'm just struggling to reconcile it as pretty much everyone reports the real range to be 260-270 and every other EV on the market 'real range' is 20-30% lower than WLTP (best summer to worst winter).
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Is a "Smart" wall box charger even needed? When you can program the car to only charge at off peak times. Just looking online as prices, the smart ones are twice the price. The Tesla Gen 3 wall charger is only $800
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driven 275miles trips to wales, Lake District this year. All made with a single charge and still over 60-70 miles left. All on motorways sticking to the speed limits. I believe my average speed for the trips were around 60mph which is probably as much as you can average consider the traffic/road works/round abouts/traffic lights etc.
Matter of fact my trip to Pembroke back in June yielded highest possible range which was 360miles on a single charge. If you telling me quoted range can’t be exceeded in an EV then I would argue it’s not true cos my car does that on regular basis.
Appreciate that most test on YouTubes are driving to a constant 70mph or 130km/h. But that’s pretty unrealistic to me if you ever share roads with other road user. Sure at 1am you can probably do 70mph from A to B whereever you are if you are prepared to break all traffic laws and run every single lights.
The issue I have with Tesla is that no matter how you drive it, I don’t think you can get anywhere close to the range. I talk to a few MY M3 drivers and they have never ever got any where close to the actual range.
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thought the wltp was largely out-moded and most manufacturers were giving discrete break-out of highway/city range under a couple of temperatures plus wltp,
and Americans had also recognised optimistic ranges declared by manufacturers and were mandating something more accurate for consumer confdence.
and Americans had also recognised optimistic ranges declared by manufacturers and were mandating something more accurate for consumer confdence.
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Nope. Afraid not.
Biggest advantage in the UK is that you can then sign up to an EV specific tariff and get very cheap overnight charging. You can do it without if your car is compatible, but not all makes are. Having a compatible charger means you can have the tariff with any EV.
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just spit balling and not suggesting I am right however I can imagine that even tho the wltp range is standard some cars will be easier to get closer to that number in real world than others, IE some may have better battery thermal control so be more affected by temp changes or some cars may do better at certain speeds etc. it's possible there is truth in what both of you think.
also some drivers are definitely softer with the right foot than others. if I try my car gives me 99-100% rating on my driving...... but if I want to have some fun (and I always *want* to have some fun) I often get it to the low 60% rating. my effiency is wildly different in those cases.
I am sure if I really tried I could get that down much more as well
that said my driving can't be all that bad.
I bought the car on 42500 miles and the over all efficiency of the car at that time was 2.8. I thought that seemed really low as my driving is almost always better than that
in just 3000 miles (car on 45500 now) that average is already up to 2.9. I wish I knew how to reset it actually but I can't be bothered the RTFM
. (resetting the onboard computer didn't do it)
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The disadvantage being there is a lot more to go wrong with it.
I have a dumb "Chargemaster" point which I got free with my Zoe.
A couple of my work colleagues have "smart" chargers (can't remember the exact make, but 2 different ones), they've both had numerous issues with them losing network connection, "forgetting" the schedule, throwing up random error codes etc, all resulting in failed charges or charging outside of the cheap hours, whereas I've never had a single problem with mine.
The only "issue" it has caused me was when I was considering a MK1 MG5, which doesn't have any kind of onboard charge scheduling.
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In summer my car is about 20% off the WLTP figure, but on very cold days it's more like 35% IMO.
Pretty much anything with "smart" in the name means it's going to screw up regularly tbh. Someone has built a lot of complexity in to it as cheaply as possible, which means it doesn't work properly.
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Its great. If you are doing a big shop you can be in the supermarket for an hour to two hours. Long enough to have a full charge when you come out. Used to love it when supermarkets used to compete by offering free charging while you were there. Plus for rural people its 45 minutes to my nearest "big" supermarket so an hour and half round trip - 60 miles. I want at least that putting in while I shop.