Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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fastwunz said:
What are they protesting about?
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Details here:
www.bbc.co.uk

Russia protest: Crowds clash with riot police as activist jailed

Riot police clash with protesters in small town in the Urals after Fail Alsynov was jailed.
www.bbc.co.uk

"...after a rights activist was sentenced to four years in a penal colony. Footage showed supporters of Fail Alsynov clashing with police - some throwing snowballs - near the court.
Alsynov was jailed for inciting ethnic hatred, which he denies."
 
Bug One said:
It's good of Russia to keep sending these things up for NATO to test it's latest equipment with.

M-SHORAD needs testing in action next.
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The Sparrow Missile and Sidewinder 9M is stuff the Yanks have left over from the 90's (I think) found in some warehouse and given to Ukraine. If Russian has issue with these god knows how Russia would handle modern missiles.
 
XPE said:
The Sparrow Missile and Sidewinder 9M is stuff the Yanks have left over from the 90's (I think) found in some warehouse and given to Ukraine. If Russian has issue with these god knows how Russia would handle modern missiles.
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Yeah but don't forget Russia aren't using their latest stuff either
No T14s or Su57s

;)

I honestly think its not just the fact that they only have very small quantities of each, but the fact that there would be a meltdown from the tankies and vatniks when they start being proved to be just as useless as the non-tankies and non-vatniks know they will be.
 
Time to invest in BAE shares? We're increasing production 155mm shells 8 fold:

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

Britain increases artillery shell production ‘eight-fold’

Britain, having donated over 300,000 artillery rounds to Ukraine, is increasing its production capability of 155mm shells eight-fold.
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I haven't seen any news on production on the smaller 105mm shells used in the L119. Apparently a lot of those guns were out of action due as Ukraine already went through the 300k shells we gave them.
 
Everyone is, the west in general has been producing only 10% of the shells actually needed in a long hot war. So 2 years of the Russian invasion has depleted stockpiles and production is having to be ramped up many times over to catch up

This unfortunately is a side effect of western foreign policy and doctrine - where for the last 30 odd years, we've believed we'd never have to go to war with Russia or China and the only countries we'd have to fight are small 3rd world dust buckets that we can quickly overwhelm

Hopefully now NATO knows that it should keep around 20 million artillery shells in storage and ready to go at any given time
 
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NOELREPORTS (@[email protected])

Norway will allocate roughly €175 million to increase the production of ammunition and develop the potential of the country's defense industry. Roughly half of it will be used to scale up artillery ammunition production for Ukraine...
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First BASE and now this, shouldn't this have happen like 15 months ago :rolleyes:

Grim5 said:
This unfortunately is a side effect of western foreign policy and doctrine - where for the last 30 odd years, we've believed we'd never have to go to war with Russia or China and the only countries we'd have to fight are small 3rd world dust buckets that we can quickly overwhelm
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True, politicians passing the buck, "don't worry the next guy will deal with it" syndrome
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Yeah but don't forget Russia aren't using their latest stuff either
No T14s or Su57s

;)

I honestly think its not just the fact that they only have very small quantities of each, but the fact that there would be a meltdown from the tankies and vatniks when they start being proved to be just as useless as the non-tankies and non-vatniks know they will be.
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I imagine they are holding those back because of they lose a lot of them, they will be expensive to replace and will weaken the Russian military so much they will be even more of a laughing stock.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Yeah but don't forget Russia aren't using their latest stuff either
No T14s or Su57s

;)

I honestly think its not just the fact that they only have very small quantities of each, but the fact that there would be a meltdown from the tankies and vatniks when they start being proved to be just as useless as the non-tankies and non-vatniks know they will be.
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On a slightly more serious note I don't think they even have any T-14s to send - I've not seen any update on them only having about 20 hand built ones of which only 2 are combat operational and 1 of those has been seen having mechanical issues :s similar with the Su-57 they only appear to have 5-6 operational out of the 20-30 built.

That said when the war started they didn't even send T-90s, BMP-Ts and very little modern aviation - half of the helicopters used were literally brought back into service having been sitting around since the 1970s without any modernisation, complete with perished rubber, etc. and the pilots having to use hand-held GPS, etc. (OK the use of hand-held navigation devices isn't unusual even today).
 
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Rroff said:
On a slightly more series note I don't think they even have any T-14s to send - I've not seen any update on them only having about 20 hand built ones of which only 2 are combat operational and 1 of those has been seen having mechanical issues :s similar with the Su-57 they only appear to have 5-6 operational out of the 20-30 built.

That said when the war started they didn't even send T-90s, BMP-Ts and very little modern aviation - half of the helicopters used were literally brought back into service having been sitting around since the 1970s without any modernisation, complete with perished rubber, etc. and the pilots having to use hand-held GPS, etc. (OK the use of hand-held navigation devices isn't unusual even today).
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Indeed why I said very small quantities of each
I mean who knows if its 1 or 10 of each but realistically its irrelevant quantities, but the PR issue if they got wiped immediately would be a disaster.
Wiped in effect by nigh on 30 year out of date western tech.

So better to keep the "uber" weapons back so that the tankies and vatniks can makes claims like "the Su57 is better than an F35 or F22" etc.

The impossible to shoot down missiles have proven very much to not be impossible to shoot down, so one PR disaster is enough ;)
 
jigger said:
The nation being screwed and facing a terrible future? Putin embarrassing the country and holding it hostage until 2036?
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I'd like to think so but probably not knowing the Russian mindset.
Grim5 said:
Everyone is, the west in general has been producing only 10% of the shells actually needed in a long hot war. So 2 years of the Russian invasion has depleted stockpiles and production is having to be ramped up many times over to catch up

This unfortunately is a side effect of western foreign policy and doctrine - where for the last 30 odd years, we've believed we'd never have to go to war with Russia or China and the only countries we'd have to fight are small 3rd world dust buckets that we can quickly overwhelm

Hopefully now NATO knows that it should keep around 20 million artillery shells in storage and ready to go at any given time
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Reading the defense minister saying that cuts in troop Numbers is actually a positive thing..

I very much doubt we have learnt anything.
 
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