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GPU Prices Suck. This Is What They SHOULD Have Cost
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That's when gaming had a buzz around it, doom 3 was a long awaited sequel, the e3 demo leaked and people were overhyped about it, but the final game was very marmite at best. Halflife 2 had a ton of buzz, even more so after its leak, and basically made doom 3 very forgettable as it was leaps and bounds the better fps. Gpus then were much cheaper, x800xt-PE was around £400, 6800 Ultra was around the same.
We have rose tinted glasses about those days but we forget both those cards were like hens teeth for many months after launch.
As for Crysis, that was the gpu muncher.
GPU sales saw 32% year-over-year increase in Q4 — AMD's market share rises to 19%
AMD is back.
Hmm something doesnt add up.
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GPU sales saw 32% year-over-year increase in Q4 — AMD's market share rises to 19%
AMD is back.www.tomshardware.com
Hmm something doesnt add up.
The problem is that they raised the prices to £999 and people still bought them,
So they raised the prices to £1499 and people still bought them.
Then they raised the prices to £1999+ and people still bought them
What does the price need to be for people to refuse to pay it
The over Two thousand pound Asus Rog strix 4090 is listed as one of Ocuk most sold 4090 cards
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Cards Available at Overclockers UK
The latest powerful GPU from NVIDIA, the GeForce RTX 4090, will provide you with the most immersive experience possible when playing your favourite games.
www.overclockers.co.uk
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The problem is that they raised the prices to £999 and people still bought them,
So they raised the prices to £1499 and people still bought them.
Then they raised the prices to £1999+ and people still bought them
What does the price need to be for people to refuse to pay it
The over Two thousand pound Asus Rog strix 4090 is listed as one of Ocuk most sold 4090 cards
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Cards Available at Overclockers UK
The latest powerful GPU from NVIDIA, the GeForce RTX 4090, will provide you with the most immersive experience possible when playing your favourite games.
2 sold today, mental..
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The problem is that they raised the prices to £999 and people still bought them,
So they raised the prices to £1499 and people still bought them.
Then they raised the prices to £1999+ and people still bought them
What does the price need to be for people to refuse to pay it
The over Two thousand pound Asus Rog strix 4090 is listed as one of Ocuk most sold 4090 cards
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Cards Available at Overclockers UK
The latest powerful GPU from NVIDIA, the GeForce RTX 4090, will provide you with the most immersive experience possible when playing your favourite games.
£1999.99 starting price so there is probably some wiggle room at just north of 2K as well. And I think people will pay up when FOMO hits hard at launch window, whether or not I'll actually buy one is a different question though. Gone through periods in the last 9 months where I've needed all the juice the 4090 provides CP2077 Expansion, The Finals, The Witcher 3, Spiderman, EA FC 24 at 240hz in Ultrawide, being pushed to the limit at max settings here and there, at those resolutions and usually 100+fps depending on the title, with all the bells and whistles.
And other games where I could have been on any gpu released in the last few years and had the same experience (Lethal Company) and even periods like now where I've gamed about 4 hours in the last month
it does make you question if it was worth purchasing, when you have cold periods not using it. On the other hand selling the 4090 and buying a 5090 will likely result in a 200-800 loss, so more digestible if you're looking to upgrade perhaps.I say all the above (as someone who isn't married and has no children)
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The problem is that they raised the prices to £999 and people still bought them,
So they raised the prices to £1499 and people still bought them.
Then they raised the prices to £1999+ and people still bought them
What does the price need to be for people to refuse to pay it
The over Two thousand pound Asus Rog strix 4090 is listed as one of Ocuk most sold 4090 cards
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Graphics Cards Available at Overclockers UK
The latest powerful GPU from NVIDIA, the GeForce RTX 4090, will provide you with the most immersive experience possible when playing your favourite games.
No idea. Ask @Grim5 I wonder what his limit is?
The problem is that they raised the prices to £999 and people still bought them,
So they raised the prices to £1499 and people still bought them.
Then they raised the prices to £1999+ and people still bought them
What does the price need to be for people to refuse to pay it
The over Two thousand pound Asus Rog strix 4090 is listed as one of Ocuk most sold 4090 cards
There are no shortage of people who will pay for the best of the best, something I don't feel like nVidia understand actually - they could increase the 4090 price to £3000, £5000 most of the people who bought them would still have done, what people don't do is pay silly money for second best - they'd have almost certain sold far more, and made more money, on the cards below the 4090 if they'd dropped the prices £150-200. (Or with the 4080 bumped the specs up to justify the price tag - but you won't get a lot of people spending £1+K for a GPU that is second best even today).
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x800-xt-platinum looks like a $30 or something card that you'll buy sh to keep your retro PC still going
. You can't really compared a 63w card with a 450w card. I'm not sure AMD even makes such low power cards anymore...Moreover, $499 from 2004 would be $816,35 (as per Google) in today's money. You wouldn't want to get such a card for that money right now, right?
So yeah, probably around $1000-$1200 would have been better for the 4090, but we can't really compare the times where a high end card was build and powered in a way that even what is considered low end today isn't.
BTW, gtx 970 was 148w tdp. 4080 (what a lot say is the current x70 class card), is 320w.
While prices have went absolutely mad, I'm not sure there's really a valid comparison with others too far back since the degree of complexity is totally different.
As for games... moving from 2080 to 4080 has enabled even older games to be enjoyed in Surround in a much better way due to extra performance. Sometimes you get new hardware to better enjoy older games! (Crysis remastered included and soon HL2 RTX!)
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x800-xt-platinum looks like a $30 or something card that you'll buy sh to keep your retro PC still going
Moreover, $499 from 2004 would be $816,35 (as per Google) in today's money. You wouldn't want to get such a card for that money right now, right?
So yeah, probably around $1000-$1200 would have been better for the 4090, but we can't really compare the times where a high end card was build and powered in a way that even what is considered low end today isn't.
BTW, gtx 970 was 148w tdp. 4080 (what a lot say is the current x70 class card), is 320w.
While prices have went absolutely mad, I'm not sure there's really a valid comparison with others too far back since the degree of complexity is totally different.
As for games... moving from 2080 to 4080 has enabled even older games to be enjoyed in Surround in a much better way due to extra performance. Sometimes you get new hardware to better enjoy older games! (Crysis remastered included and soon HL2 RTX!)
Doesn't really matter if the complexity of the card is different or not, it's expected to be more complex these days as more or less 20 years have passed and obviously tech has moved on, what was high end then can be compared to what is high end now, it just shows how things have evolved.
My post was more about people's excitement levels for 2 games and people buying cards to power them, games these days lack that 'must have' hook that both those games had. That excitement level from 2004 rarely comes around anymore because of the 'ship it now, finish it later' publisher mentality which, while it existed in 2004, was nowhere near as prevalent as it is today.
As for pricing, we're already way past the point of stupid.
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GPU sales saw 32% year-over-year increase in Q4 — AMD's market share rises to 19%
AMD is back.
Hmm something doesnt add up.
Pretty solid growth from AMD, its good to see, i hope it continues....
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Probably just a rounding error
long ago in the old times i got a tnt 2 ultra for 220 quid, top end at the time, my last card was about 380 quid the sapphire pulse 5700 and i bought a sapphire pulse 7800xt for 499.99 just before christmas because i wanted more power as id moved to a 1440p monitor from a 1080p one and wanted my fps back as the 7800xt is twice the power and has double the ram.
the prices are daft even for the mid range now
even my dad who whacked a big load on a new am5 pc was like nope at the prices but thankfully his monitor is 1080p and my old 5700 is in his rig performing great 
the prices are daft even for the mid range now
even my dad who whacked a big load on a new am5 pc was like nope at the prices but thankfully his monitor is 1080p and my old 5700 is in his rig performing great 
Same here.
Well, for 'life' see 'until I buy Cyberpunk and Starfield and want to play at 1440p'.
Starfield is awful, don't bother.
I like to remind people here that Nvidia CEO said a few times in public that 4090 is too cheap and this is the last time they release such cheap top card - and that was before the whole ai craze and now we are entering another crypto pricing boom too. Expect 5090 to be 2500+, I'd say. :/ 5080 series are indeed another matter but I suspect 4000 series won't go anywhere and 5000 one will be just priced above it, though 4000 likely will drop in prices some.
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We also got older, priority and taste are different and the current young generation prefer mobile gaming or consoles than PC. In other words, the market is very different and it's not just games but everything about it. In the very old times pc were considerably more expensive yet people still bought them - it's not just the price that matter here, but it surely doesn't help.
Nvidias plan
Lets raise prices so people pay more for the same thing.
Then we add some flashy marketing features that are easy to market and people will lose fps and are forced to buy the most expensive cards.
Thinking they got a great deal..........
anyhow, got this 6950xt on black friday sale and it runs what I play in 4k at a third of the cost of some marketing cards
Lets raise prices so people pay more for the same thing.
Then we add some flashy marketing features that are easy to market and people will lose fps and are forced to buy the most expensive cards.
Thinking they got a great deal..........
anyhow, got this 6950xt on black friday sale and it runs what I play in 4k at a third of the cost of some marketing cards
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6950XT is a cracking card, 3090Ti kinda speed at raster 