Head of the Met's Black Police Association (MBPA) has been dismissed

[Lord-Jaffa]

I agree from a standard Member of the Public POV but the police should be held to a higher standard given their position in society. This is a cohort that can remove your liberty and are involved in a system that can imprison you, potentially destroying your life. Should they be allowed to do similar crimes and nothing happens?

If you are unable to meet these restrictions on your personal life to become a police officer then the answer is simple - do not become one.

BTW - I am not looking to change your mind on the matter, as I realise this is a futile endeavour. You have your opinion and I have mine.

They are enforcing what they have been told to enforce, I agree its hypocrisy but you cant expect anyone in society to live upto those standards at all times. It's often the case that those that shout the loudest are themselves guilty, many examples can be found of this (cricketer claiming racist then being antisemitic himself etc).

My view is that prosecuting someone for what is essentially freedom of expression and humour is a gross overreach by consecutive overbearing government's. I loathe it to my core and I believe in absolute freedom and freedom to offend. The overreach into someone's messages is abhorrent to me, messages are the modern day extention of a private conversation and government can FO out of them.

 

[Dis86]

They are enforcing what they have been told to enforce, I agree its hypocrisy but you cant expect anyone in society to live upto those standards at all times. It's often the case that those that shout the loudest are themselves guilty, many examples can be found of this (cricketer claiming racist then being antisemitic himself etc).

My view is that prosecuting someone for what is essentially freedom of expression and humour is a gross overreach by consecutive overbearing government's. I loathe it to my core and I believe in absolute freedom and freedom to offend. The overreach into someone's messages is abhorrent to me, messages are the modern day extention of a private conversation and government can FO out of them.

There are 2 issues with this. We don't know the exact contents of the messages and just how offensive they actually were. Aaaaand this guy heads the organisation that spends its entire time persecuting people that do the same in the name of being 'anti-racist'. Proper case of pot-kettle.

 

[Richie]

Obviously not in the bottom quartile but police are meant to be a representation of the society they police. If we only had righteous dogooders as coppers you could guarantee the world would be a far worse place.

I'm not expecting righteous do-gooders as police. I'm AM expecting them to follow the laws that they themselves are there to enforce.

What would you think if you got arrested for an offence, which meant you were imprisoned and therefore lost your job, by a cop that had done similar the previous month but nothing happened to them?

 

[Deleted User 298457]

I'm not expecting righteous do-gooders as police. I'm AM expecting them to follow the laws that they themselves are there to enforce.

What would you think if you got arrested for an offence, which meant you were imprisoned and therefore lost your job, by a cop that had done similar the previous month but nothing happened to them?

You're telling me you've never received a meme or something that could be interpreted as potentially borderline? Heck the fact Dis has only made this thread because it's a black dude who runs a black-copper support group is about as racist; given that six white coppers of far more distinguished status did arguably far worse in Dec 2023:

Met Police: Ex-officers sentenced over racist WhatsApp posts

The six retired officers were told their behaviour had harmed public confidence in the police.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Zefan]

@Dis86 you are now expected to post a thread every time anyone does anything or you're racist.

 

[Richie]

You're telling me you've never received a meme or something that could be interpreted as potentially borderline?

I'm not saying that at all. The difference is, I am not a copper. I've been very clear in my posts that it is specific to police officers.

If I, as a normal Member of Public, participate in the kind of messages that the Inspector in this OP has reported to have been sending then I have to accept that, should the police become aware of these messages, I am liable to arrest and possible prosecution.

Heck the fact Dis has only made this thread because it's a black dude who runs a black-copper support group is about as racist; given that six white coppers of far more distinguished status did arguably far worse in Dec 2023:

Met Police: Ex-officers sentenced over racist WhatsApp posts

The six retired officers were told their behaviour had harmed public confidence in the police.

www.bbc.co.uk

I'd imagine that the current thread was posted as it has been reported in the last few days whereas the news report you have linked to is over a year old. No?

 

[Richie]

My view is that prosecuting someone for what is essentially freedom of expression and humour is a gross overreach by consecutive overbearing government's. I loathe it to my core and I believe in absolute freedom and freedom to offend. The overreach into someone's messages is abhorrent to me, messages are the modern day extention of a private conversation and government can FO out of them.

I am not so sure you would use the above argument if a person was sending messages involving child abuse?

 

[dowie]

There are 2 issues with this. We don't know the exact contents of the messages and just how offensive they actually were. Aaaaand this guy heads the organisation that spends its entire time persecuting people that do the same in the name of being 'anti-racist'. Proper case of pot-kettle.

Not to mention other police officers have been charged and imprisoned for the same thing.

Police officers in general are quite happy to play the role of little Gestapo/Stazi types and go to people's houses to "check their thinking" or summon them for a "voluntary interview about a non-crime hate incident" that if they miss may make them liable for arrest or indeed in some cases prosecute people - like the guy who made an amusing YouTube video with his girlfriends Pug and was subsequently charged and fined.

 

[Dis86]

You're telling me you've never received a meme or something that could be interpreted as potentially borderline? Heck the fact Dis has only made this thread because it's a black dude who runs a black-copper support group is about as racist; given that six white coppers of far more distinguished status did arguably far worse in Dec 2023:

Met Police: Ex-officers sentenced over racist WhatsApp posts

The six retired officers were told their behaviour had harmed public confidence in the police.

www.bbc.co.uk

Were they the heads of an organisation that's supposed to be anti-racist?