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At what point do you say GPU's are too expensive and refuse to buy?

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But a good set of golf clubs will last you longer than a top end GPU.
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It's a piece of solid metal you might use two hours a week max. I will use my gpu everyday for two years and sell for most of its value.

#teamgpu
 
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Hostile_18 said:
It's a piece of solid metal you might use two hours a week max. I will use my gpu everyday for two years and sell for most of its value.

#teamgpu
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I edited my golf post for more clarity to actually touch on that point. A typical hobbyist will not be buying the absolute top end kit every two years. They buy mid range or even lower and use them for at least 4 years typically.

So when they finally get around to selling their “mid range” kit, it is worth significantly less than they paid for it.

You need to stop thinking like someone who is prepared to go all in every two years on top end GPUs.
 
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ICDP said:
I edited my golf post for more clarity to actually touch on that point. A typical hobbyist will not be buying the absolute top end kit every two years. They buy mid range or even lower and use them for at least 4 years typically.

So when they finally get around to selling their “mid range” kit, it is worth significantly less than they paid for it.

You need to stop thinking like someone who is prepared to go all in every two years on top end GPUs.
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At the rate tech us progressing let's say it's not sold. It's going go be a beast for at least 6 years and usable for many years after that. There's so many other ways to blow that money.

I'm not saying that every gpu should be that price, just that high end has it's place, just like in every other hobby.
 
I'm pretty happy with the 500+whatever I paid for my 4070, coming from a 2070 previously that was about the same price.

You don't *need* to spend more to play games on PC, it's more that the top-end has expanded to take money from the people that are willing to cough up four-figures for a GPU.
 
GPUs have become very expensive, but if you stay at the high end, selling your current card each time you purchase a new one, you end up spending roughly £600-£800 every 2 years.

Compare this to mobile phones where a lot of people buy the latest phone every year for ~£1000 but phones don't hold their value as well as GPUs, so they're spending £600 yearly for their upgrades... I'd also argue that a yearly phone upgrade is a smaller bump in performance and less of a change than a GPU upgrade. So even though GPUs are expensive, I'd rather shell out for a new GPU than a new phone, and it's not costing as much.
 
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GPUs have become very expensive, but if you stay at the high end, selling your current card each time you purchase a new one, you end up spending roughly £600-£800 every 2 years.

Compare this to mobile phones where a lot of people buy the latest phone every year for ~£1000 but phones don't hold their value as well as GPUs, so they're spending £600 yearly for their upgrades... I'd also argue that a yearly phone upgrade is a smaller bump in performance and less of a change than a GPU upgrade. So even though GPUs are expensive, I'd rather shell out for a new GPU than a new phone, and it's not costing as much.
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Yet more PC master race nonsense, sorry but I’m going to call it like it is here. The vast VAST majority do not buy the high end every two years, they upgrade every 4 on average and they certainly don’t consider £2300 as “typical for a hobby”.

This “man math” BS myth needs to stop. Your first high end GPU didn’t just magic itself in to your PC. And that in a nutshell is the premise of this thread.
 
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Yet more PC master race nonsense, sorry but I’m going to call it like it is here. The vast VAST majority do not buy the high end every two years, they upgrade every 4 on average and they certainly don’t consider £2300 as “typical for a hobby”.
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Where did I say £2,300 was typical for a hobby..? That would all depend on somebody's income/expenses.
I compared the price of upgrading a GPU every 2 years, to upgrading a phone every year. Because this is something a lot of people do.
 
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Where did I say £2,300 was typical for a hobby..? That would all depend on somebody's income/expenses.
I compared the price of upgrading a GPU every 2 years, to upgrading a phone every year. Because this is something a lot of people do.
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It’s man maths justification comparing apples to oranges. Most people don’t buy a new phone every year, most people don’t buy high end GPUs. Your initial outlay if you wanted a high end GPU to get on this mythical “upgrade cycle”, will be well north of £2000. So if you didn’t have a high end GPU at all, would you consider the likely 5090 pricing to be reasonable?
 
ICDP said:
It’s man maths justification comparing apples to oranges. Most people don’t buy a new phone every year, most people don’t buy high end GPUs. Your initial outlay if you wanted a high end GPU to get on this mythical “upgrade cycle”, will be well north of £2000. So if you didn’t have a high end GPU at all, would you consider the likely 5090 pricing to be reasonable?
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?? Who is jumping in at 2 grand.

I went 3080 (£700) sold for £700.
4090 (£1600) sold for £1699.

As I mentioned previously no one goes straight into a hobby and buys the most expensive gear, unless your considerably rich/impulsive. For any GPU that can be made at a certain price point (say midrange) there can always be more money at a problem thrown at something to brute force more gains (at a financial cost).
 
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ICDP said:
It’s man maths justification comparing apples to oranges. Most people don’t buy a new phone every year, most people don’t buy high end GPUs. Your initial outlay if you wanted a high end GPU to get on this mythical “upgrade cycle”, will be well north of £2000. So if you didn’t have a high end GPU at all, would you consider the likely 5090 pricing to be reasonable?
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This is an enthusiast forum. "Most people" is an argument to use on reddit, not here. And no, I don't think £2000 is reasonable. It's more than double a reasonable price. But I would rather spend £2000 on a GPU than £600 on a games console
 
Your own argument means nothing because even on this forum most “enthusiasts” don’t consider £1000 reasonable. For what it’s worth I agree on your assessment on what’s reasonable.

Your £600 - £800 two yearly upgrade cycle is already far more than most “enthusiasts” on this forum (and thread) are willing to pay.

To get on this “upgrade cycle” currently at high end would require an outlay of well north of £1000 and more than £2000 at the very top end. Which again is way more than most “enthusiasts” are willing to pay.

This is not about phones or golf clubs, it’s about gaming GPUs.
 
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You can drop close to £2000 on top of the range irons, £800 for a Driver, £500 on a fairway wood you might need two, £600 for 3 wedges, £700 for a Scotty Putter. and stick them in a £500 bag.
Add some custom shafts and add a few more zeros
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Thats kind of surprising. £800 for one golf club? That has to be profiteering. How much R&D goes into making a golf club for example?
 
You people are too serious. I don't care about value for money. Me buying or not buying it won't make any difference to the market price. It is what it is mostly because of external factors to the gaming market.

I buy it because it's my hobby and it makes me happy and I am lucky to be able to afford to do so. That's it.
 
I will be looking at cards up to about 1k for my next upgrade but to spend that much it would have to offer exceptional value compared to its predecessor or competition. I am hoping to get the performance I want for more like 500-750 perhaps the 5070ti is a decent option if it launches at MSRP, but I am not interested in the 5070 at all. I have a 3070 and might try to hold out until the refresh or perhaps get a 5070ti or 9070xt in the Spring.

I tend to upgrade every other generation and expect a 50% performance uplift.
 
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