Generally been my experience with QD-OLED. No issue playing games but the moment I use a QD-OLED monitor for any sort of reading/text/work it was just a real pain on my eyes.No issue in general content, just walls of text like these forums
Otherwise it's fine.
MSI 26.5" MPG 272URX QD-OLED 240Hz 26.5" 4K Monitor
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Weirdly for me, been a non issue until this one.
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So my solution is SDR with Display P3 colour settings
but there's a few night vision and an ai mode in the gaming section that make the text much easier to read with less colour fringing thankfully as well.
Was potentially annoying enough I would have returned it otherwise! something to be aware of at least before buying one.
but there's a few night vision and an ai mode in the gaming section that make the text much easier to read with less colour fringing thankfully as well.
Was potentially annoying enough I would have returned it otherwise! something to be aware of at least before buying one.
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First image SDR modes PG27AQDP Left vs 272URX Right
2nd Image HDR turned on
100% brightness for PG27AQDP vs 70 for the 272URX
HDR settings = Gaming HDR vs True Black 400
2nd Image HDR turned on
100% brightness for PG27AQDP vs 70 for the 272URX
HDR settings = Gaming HDR vs True Black 400
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Seems to do much brighter whites based on those images?
What’s the deal with that tiny juice bottle?! One sip and …. Nah, I’ve had enough *puts lid back on*
Yeah my camera isn't good enough on my cheap phone
to really bring out the best of the msi, but I was just curious to compare while I have them side by side. Much happier with the display after some tinkering and means I can only be tempted by 5K 2K displays and not a TV again
As for the juice, part of one of my several meal deal combos
Are you thinking it’s much more likely to be your main monitor now over the 27AQDP?Yeah my camera isn't good enough on my cheap phone
Much happier with the display after some tinkering and means I can only be tempted by 5K 2K displays and not a TV again
As for the juice, part of one of my several meal deal combos
Both 27”? And both OLED? I’m reallly tempted by one of these new 27” 4k - but I feel with work I still need an IPS monitor.I’ve just noticed that this setup is basically the mirror (… sort of) of what I’ll have… an MSI monitor for work and the ASUS 27” OLED for gaming.
Doesn’t look too bad
The monitor I currently have is an IPS, MSI 274URF. It’s a 4k monitor.
It’s alright and tbh, perfect for work. Unfortunately the initial one I got had a damaged screen and then the second had a dead pixel which isn’t a fault by ISO standards so I had to pay to return it, boo. Third time it was finally fault free.
It’s easy to quibble if I try to use it for ‘non-work’ purposes, e.g. gaming. There is some light bleed from the bottom of the panel (but it’s symmetrical so fine) and the whole monitor looks blown when switching to HDR. Both are very noticeable when games have dark scenes. Classic IPS bs!
The major quibble with though was it black screening every so often at 160hz, which I think is because of windows / the monitor flip flopping between using DSC and not. By limiting the monitor to 144hz it seems to avoid it.
A more minor quibble is that the monitor keeps trying to install software from a drive until it detects that software and SsTFU. This is (was) really annoying when using it with a work MacBook that says “you can’t attach an external drive” every time you turn it on
- installed the software on my desktop and it stopped happening.But again, it was for work and for that it’s perfect. Setting the external display of my work MacBook to a ‘wide gamut’ mode pretty much perfectly matches the colour profile of the MacBook pretty perfectly.
I’d give it 7.5/10 and I’m happy with it. Just don’t expect it to be good for gaming or an ‘all rounder’. That’s why I have a 27” OLED on order (PG27UCDM)
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I've got two PC's at the moment, so I will probably just end up using both for different tasks through the days, both can be used for gaming/work
I guess depending on the title, I can game at 4K or higher refresh rate.
I think I'll run all my emulation related games on the 4K display exclusively though.
And it's much nicer for HDR so any game/movie/tv show/video that has HDR I actually like I'll use the MSI also for that.
I still 100% prefer reading on the WOLED over this QD OLED display, I didn't see it brought up in any reviews, so maybe it's me wearing glasses that causes it to be worse than it otherwise would be, might pop in some contact lenses tomorrow and see if I notice a difference to the experience or not.
I have also been focusing on it and leaning in closer than I would be in a normal working scenario, when I don't, I don't really notice any issues anymore
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Fixed my text issues reinstalling my GPU drivers after removing all traces of older ones (had used AMD/Intel/Nvidia)
I decided to use it on my other PC which was clean install with 1 GPU only and it looked so much better
I can actually lean in now without any colour fringing sensitivity like every other non Gen 1 QD-OLED I've used on both PC's
User error people not the monitor
after removing all traces of older ones (had used AMD/Intel/Nvidia) I decided to use it on my other PC which was clean install with 1 GPU only and it looked so much better
I can actually lean in now without any colour fringing sensitivity like every other non Gen 1 QD-OLED I've used
on both PC'sUser error people not the monitor
Great stuff
… PCs are so goddamn fussy sometimes aren’t they. You can be completely undermined by some totally random issues.
My computer currently won’t go ‘to sleep’ because of a human interphase driver (!) that activates every time I plug my speakers in
… PCs are so goddamn fussy sometimes aren’t they. You can be completely undermined by some totally random issues.
My computer currently won’t go ‘to sleep’ because of a human interphase driver (!) that activates every time I plug my speakers in
Really tempted to put an order in for this MSI model and see what it's like, definitely accepted that 32" is just a bit too big for my liking (although I can 100% understand why people prefer it) so maybe one of these 4k 27" models would be more up my street!
@Personality+ How've you been finding this for the past month? I managed to stop myself ordering one a few weeks ago but I've found myself sticking to my 27" 1440p OLED for the last month, comfortable knowing 27" is the size I want but also missing the extra resolution of 4k is tempting me again...
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4k for 27" seems a bit pointless, want a bigger screen to make it worthwhile. Only benefit I could think of is to remove any change of text chromatic ringing, with 4K 27" the pixels are so small any R/G/B ringing will be reduced.
Plus the whole extra grunt needed on the GPU
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Yeah very happy with the monitor, primary display for everything now, just so much sharper and it's nice being quite close to the monitor everything still being supersharp
It's for people who want higher pixel density, if you don't care go with 32" I guess, but the added density is worth the money for me.
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There's probably a ideal PPI- anything more and you would need eyes like a hawk. ie a 8K wristwatch is pointless. But a 1080p 150" projector screen will be too low.
Viewing distance/screensize/resolution and eye sight also.
Then factor is it for Windows use only, or games.
Probably for 4K I'd be looking at 32" 16:9 or UW.
Yeah, that's essentially what interests me about it. The higher PPI, the total non-issue with text and having 4k for work/everything else.
I've found that the height of 32" is a little too much for me so 27" is my preference. GPU grunt I agree with, I think it depends on what games I'm playing and what settings/upscaling I'm happy with. DLSS Performance, particularly with the new transformer model, at 4k looks great - so you aren't really sacrificing visuals there to get better performance or to maintain the performance you'd have at 1440p.
Didn't Apple do a bunch of case studies on this? It's why they have all their 'retina displays' where it's meant to be about not being able to see individual pixels at a specific distance. I think for 27" it was something like 5k!
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32" uw isn't that high in vertical size though, guess you thought I was talking of 32" 16:9 or 16:10
Also isn't windows scaling quite poor? So it's best leaving to 100%. Although I do use 125% on both of my displays 1440p 27" and 1220p 16"
I try to choose ppi where a bit of windows scaling is required to make things look bigger, use native display resolution. And I games run native with no scaling and if possible no AA to lessen burden of GPU. No dlss/fsr.
I try not use games scaling as I go back to dos and windows 3.1 era so native in games was always the right way although with TVs and video always have to scale dvd to 1080p or SD to 4k etc so similar in principles to fsr and dlss
Also isn't windows scaling quite poor? So it's best leaving to 100%. Although I do use 125% on both of my displays 1440p 27" and 1220p 16"
I try to choose ppi where a bit of windows scaling is required to make things look bigger, use native display resolution. And I games run native with no scaling and if possible no AA to lessen burden of GPU. No dlss/fsr.
I try not use games scaling as I go back to dos and windows 3.1 era so native in games was always the right way although with TVs and video always have to scale dvd to 1080p or SD to 4k etc so similar in principles to fsr and dlss