At what point do you say GPU's are too expensive and refuse to buy?

[Jono8]

If I was building from scratch and buying new at the moment of this post the 7900XT looks pretty good. Nvidia appear to have gone full Rachel Zegler. Otherwise I'd wait for ~six months.

I don't understand why people can't just restrain themselves and wait for a bit.

Unless there is some big unforseen event, eventually there will be loads of stock of 5xxx series cards at RRP or a bit less, just like there were for the 4xxx series.

Seems utterly mad to pay miles over the odds for anything right now.

 

[Spils]

I don't understand why people can't just restrain themselves and wait for a bit.

Unless there is some big unforseen event, eventually there will be loads of stock of 5xxx series cards at RRP or a bit less, just like there were for the 4xxx series.

Seems utterly mad to pay miles over the odds for anything right now.

So they can flex.

 

[ScottMc]

Right about now (with the 50 series) my funk soul brothers. A 5070 Ti is probably going to go for £900-1000 , GTFO.

 

[hornetstinger]

Right about now (with the 50 series) my funk soul brothers. A 5070 Ti is probably going to go for £900-1000 , GTFO.

I have considerably more money than sense than you....

 

[Meaker]

I have considerably more money than sense than you....

I think a fair amount of enthusiasts do, but we are progressively loosing more and more people who can say that which makes the community shrink.

 

[martin363]

I gave up pc gaming after the 2000 series, switched to console (Xbox) and Apple Macmy work. I don’t regret it at all.

High prices are driving me and others from the PC, and the trouble is once you try other systems you realise just how bad the pc platform has become, expensive, often unstable, frequent windows changes and a constant battle to maintain. A fun hobby when affordable, an expensive mess now.

 

[Jono8]

Right about now (with the 50 series) my funk soul brothers. A 5070 Ti is probably going to go for £900-1000 , GTFO.

If I ever fancy a 5070ti (the only card really worth having in this stack to be honest) I will be waiting for them to be in stock everywhere and available from somewhere with a discount code or cashback etc.

Won't ever pay a penny over RRP and will actively make sure I pay less after discounts.

 

[ScottMc]

I have considerably more money than sense than you....

It's not about having the money or not, to me it's about value for money and real life priorities getting in the way like buying a house. It helps that I've always been tight so will probably stick to the used market.

 

[BKUK]

Right about now (with the 50 series) my funk soul brothers. A 5070 Ti is probably going to go for £900-1000 , GTFO.

I think this will ultimately affect the AMD prices. Everyone thinking the 9070xt will be a cheap card it’s going to be easily £800 plus.

 

[Bassmansam]

I gave up pc gaming after the 2000 series, switched to console (Xbox) and Apple Macmy work. I don’t regret it at all.

High prices are driving me and others from the PC, and the trouble is once you try other systems you realise just how bad the pc platform has become, expensive, often unstable, frequent windows changes and a constant battle to maintain. A fun hobby when affordable, an expensive mess now.

Think your reaching a bit there as that’s not been my experience. Certainly isn’t a constant battle, i turn on and play just like on a console

 

[Sibbers]

I am willing to overpay in return for frames, and I started being embarrassed about admitting to anyone that was mentally sound what I'd spend when GTX 980Ti's hit £500. I have a 4090 (two, actually) because it does 4k so well, and is better on power than the 3090 before it. The 5090 feels like it's priced in a way that seems contemptuous; can totally imagine nvidia execs scoffing at segments of humanity and looking forward to seeing how far they can take this thing.

Once supply picks up and has saturated what appears like high current demand, I'm interested to see how this goes and what they are able to continue selling. For a moment I was interested. The power use is egregious, I wonder what people will think about pulling 600w continuously after they've lived with it for a while especially once out of winter.

 

[hornetstinger]

It's not about having the money or not, to me it's about value for money and real life priorities getting in the way like buying a house. It helps that I've always been tight so will probably stick to the used market.

Read it again More money than sense

 

[Tinek]

I don't understand why people can't just restrain themselves and wait for a bit.

Most people don't have this issue though - the "normies" don't buy 5080 and 5090 cards, they go for xx60 cards. Enthusiasts pay this new tax, which NVIDIA pushes to be a norm (and higher in the future, likely).

Unless there is some big unforseen event, eventually there will be loads of stock of 5xxx series cards at RRP or a bit less, just like there were for the 4xxx series.

New, higher RRP prices by some AIBs have already been officially added to their websites (so it's not just retailers) - 20-30% higher than FE MSRP. Their excuse is high cost of GPU/vRAM combo by NVIDIA and tariffs that US introduced on various products. As in, none of that shows any hope of prices dropping to FE level anytime soon - I would say, forget about it. Only NVIDIA could influence price drops by dropping their prices - which they won't do, as it's just not part of their normal behaviour.

Seems utterly mad to pay miles over the odds for anything right now.

Absolutely agree, but again - I highly doubt waiting will help, unless FE models show in big numbers and people go for them. It seems VIDIA rather produce enterprise cards than gaming ones, as they get way way higher margins for them, out of the same silicon and manufacturing capacity. So the shortages might never really end, if it continues to slowly drip to the market and that's intended.

 

[Tinek]

I think this will ultimately affect the AMD prices. Everyone thinking the 9070xt will be a cheap card it’s going to be easily £800 plus.

It seems even AMD is surprised by all this NVIDIA rubbish behaviour, hence they sit and wait to see where it will actually go before finalising their pricing etc.

 

[Tinek]

Read it again More money than sense

There are also plenty of wealthy gamers out there who don't want to buy 5090, even though they can afford it without thinking - a lot of people have money exactly because they don't just throw it away on overpriced new toys. Usually it's the opposite and it's the people who can't really afford expensive things that go silly and buy one, then pay debts for a long time just to jump into another debt etc. And then wonder why they never have any money when it's really needed in life (various emergencies, accidents, etc.).

 

[Jono8]

New, higher RRP prices by some AIBs have already been officially added to their websites (so it's not just retailers) - 20-30% higher than FE MSRP. Their excuse is high cost of GPU/vRAM combo by NVIDIA and tariffs that US introduced on various products. As in, none of that shows any hope of prices dropping to FE level anytime soon - I would say, forget about it. Only NVIDIA could influence price drops by dropping their prices - which they won't do, as it's just not part of their normal behaviour.

All the same stuff and excuses were trotted out for the 4xxx series after they were hard to get initially, and eventually supply picked up and demand slowed down and he we had a decent long period where they were all readily available for RRP, and there were even some deals.

The same will happen with the 5xxx series barring any big unforeseen events.

If people want lower/rrp prices, people should just wait unless they absolutely have to buy one as they have no gpu or theirs breaks or something.

 

[Tinek]

If people want lower/rrp prices, people should just wait unless they absolutely have to buy one as they have no gpu or theirs breaks or something.

Yes, voting with wallets is a thing people tend to forget but it really does work, if enough do it. Problem is, FOMO is also real and... here we are.
And then early adopters can experience joy of such things: https://videocardz.com/newz/der8aue...-uneven-power-distribution-finds-150c-hotspot

 

[Combat squirrel]

I am willing to overpay in return for frames, and I started being embarrassed about admitting to anyone that was mentally sound what I'd spend when GTX 980Ti's hit £500. I have a 4090 (two, actually) because it does 4k so well, and is better on power than the 3090 before it. The 5090 feels like it's priced in a way that seems contemptuous; can totally imagine nvidia execs scoffing at segments of humanity and looking forward to seeing how far they can take this thing.

Once supply picks up and has saturated what appears like high current demand, I'm interested to see how this goes and what they are able to continue selling. For a moment I was interested. The power use is egregious, I wonder what people will think about pulling 600w continuously after they've lived with it for a while especially once out of winter.

Good point power wise.........its like having a camping kettle on boiling water all day none stop - insanity. A 5090 + the rest of the PC & Monitor will be knocking on 1000 watts draw continuously while gaming.

 

[Combat squirrel]

Yes, voting with wallets is a thing people tend to forget but it really does work, if enough do it. Problem is, FOMO is also real and... here we are.
And then early adopters can experience joy of such things: https://videocardz.com/newz/der8aue...-uneven-power-distribution-finds-150c-hotspot

Yes this is essentially the problem of all society - we, the people CAN control the markets, but it takes everyone to act in unison (hence why big corp & political allies tend to ban unions) because the regular man can control it all if they wish (as a collective)

But we are fighting a life time of societal programming to spend spend spend & being taught that spending money will somehow make us feel wonderful...........to convincingly talk someone out of that & go against their programmed emotional instinct is extremely hard.......a 5090 sitting on a shelf ready for the taking - people can't control themselves, then the shop may only need to do a 10% discount and people would drop off like flies.

If everyone held strong & refused to play their game, in a week a 5090 would cost half the price, less if people held off a few months - let the shelves fill until they are over flowing with 5090 cards & they run out of room to stock them........the price would tumble.

It would also teach them a lesson.

People are too greedy & impatient sadly.

 

[mahius]

If people want lower/rrp prices, people should just wait unless they absolutely have to buy one as they have no gpu or theirs breaks or something.

I'm still holding strong from my 970 lol. Hoping that AMD price the 9070 series well and put out enough stock. If they don't... makes no difference to me then