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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

harmattan said:
That's what your tongue is for :)

Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting anyone use their tongue as a multi-meter.
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Fair enough on the disclaimer, I often use my tongue as a multimeter if I need to do a quick test on a 9v battery or coin battery.

My tongue is now calibrated to detect the voltage of both of these types of battery :D
 
Dave2150 said:
Will still pickup a 5090 FE if I get the chance though!
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With you on the FE cards Dave, I love 'em.

But the FE only having one shunt resistor to handle all that current bothers me. This 4080 Super is quiet and good with power. I wouldn't buy a second hand 4090 at this stage of the game, too much money for second hand with no warranty.

That just leaves the 5090 as my only real upgrade going forward and like you, it'd be a 5090 FE all day long.

Gonna let good folks such as yourself give it a good 6 months road test before I jump on that train though :D

;)
 
Varys said:
Don't forget, it's not just making a card. The bios has to be installed, then go through QC, then packaging, then off to a distribution centre where they will sat on a shelf for a week or so. Next they goto the docks where they will be in storage a few days. Then 6 weeks on a ship. Maybe a week in UK customs. Then to retailers, who have to book all the stock in and warehouse. So maybe from start of manufacture of a card to delivery by the retailer you're probably looking at a period of 2.5 months (incidentally many retailers are giving expected delivery dates for end of April/May)

All this is at a time of the 2 week Chinese New Year period when the manufacturers and ports are mostly shut. (Note the FEs are also made in Taiwan)
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Id guess some are flown in as some have a manufacture date towards end of January and were in end users hand within a week up until now. The big drops like you said will be on a boat for 6 weeks.
 
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The best 5090 at the moment is the Astral LC. Besides the MSI affiliation of HUB, the ASUS card has the better PCB (including shunt resistors for reporting per wire current). The only gripes I had with the non-LC Astral were noise and thermals, both solved by the LC version which surpassed the Suprim in overall graphics score 3DMark Timespy benchmarks. Air to Air, the suprim is better. But now given the circumstances especially, the LC Astral is top.

It is of course, unobtainium under the circumstances
 
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marios50 said:
The best 5090 at the moment is the Astral LC. Besides the MSI affiliation of HUB, the ASUS card has the better PCB (including shunt resistors for reporting per wire current). The only gripes I had with the non-LC Astral were noise and thermals, both solved by the LC version which surpassed the Suprim in overall graphics score 3DMark Timespy benchmarks. Air to Air, the suprim is better. But now given the circumstances especially, the LC Astral is top.

It is of course, unobtainium under the circumstances
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Extra shunts without additional balancing circuitry is like putting a tannoy on the Titanic.
 
JustHappy said:
I wonder if there's a phase imbalance limit that'll trigger a shutdown. Should be easy to implement if all pins are monitored.
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Indications are that it will give you a readout if you're running Asus own tool. No indication of any failsafes and totally useless if you're running any unmonitored rendering tasks etc.
 
DavieJG said:
Indications are that it will give you a readout if you're running Asus own tool. No indication of any failsafes and totally useless if you're running any unmonitored rendering tasks etc.
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But what is the likelyhood of a sudden failure if the cable/components themselves are not moved or touched in any way?

Say you're about to leave the house or go to sleep and you want to start a ten hour task. You click start and look at the ASUS readout, all 6 pins are perfectly balanced 100watts each.

Are we saying that left unattended and completely untouched the pc could spontaneously go from OK to catastrophic failure, all by itself?

Also, surely the tool can be used to check if a new setup (PSU, card, and/or cable) is not faulty in anyway?
 
marios50 said:
The best 5090 at the moment is the Astral LC. Besides the MSI affiliation of HUB, the ASUS card has the better PCB (including shunt resistors for reporting per wire current). The only gripes I had with the non-LC Astral were noise and thermals, both solved by the LC version which surpassed the Suprim in overall graphics score 3DMark Timespy benchmarks. Air to Air, the suprim is better. But now given the circumstances especially, the LC Astral is top.

It is of course, unobtainium under the circumstances
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What about the free of charge coil whine?
 
SuperElectric said:
But what is the likelyhood of a sudden failure if the cable/components themselves are not moved or touched in any way?

Say you're about to leave the house or go to sleep and you want to start a ten hour task. You click start and look at the ASUS readout, all 6 pins are perfectly balanced 100watts each.

Are we saying that left unattended and completely untouched the pc could spontaneously go from OK to catastrophic failure, all by itself?

Also, surely the tool can be used to check if a new setup (PSU, card, and/or cable) is not faulty in anyway?
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Depends on the failure mode.

It could help identify installation errors or manufacturing defects on cables. If it's failing due to thermal cycling combined with cable strain then it could fail at any time.
 
SuperElectric said:
But what is the likelyhood of a sudden failure if the cable/components themselves are not moved or touched in any way?

Say you're about to leave the house or go to sleep and you want to start a ten hour task. You click start and look at the ASUS readout, all 6 pins are perfectly balanced 100watts each.

Are we saying that left unattended and completely untouched the pc could spontaneously go from OK to catastrophic failure, all by itself?

Also, surely the tool can be used to check if a new setup (PSU, card, and/or cable) is not faulty in anyway?
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If I'm not in the room with a direct line of sight to a PC with a 5090, then it's going to be turned off. Only exception is if I'm not nipping to the loo or quickly grabbing some sustenance.
 
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