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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

gotenson5 said:
Maybe they realised they messed up on launch day and added it on from new orders from then. Because if what you say is true then release day orders MUST be what they showed. Its all horrid made even WORSE by actually taking your money on the point of order then basically saying we might ask you for more
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Perhaps, but it's wholly irrevelant what they "realized" and posted as terms days after taking orders, provided confirmations (that literally state you and they are now "under contract" and recieving payment), and recieved. They were legally bound to provide the item under their own original terms at the point of explicit order and recieving payment.

The world would be chaos if one party could materially alter terms after purchase of said item.
 
It's certainly scummy behaviour alright, but regardless of them updating their policy etc, unless there is a clear instruction under the T&Cs and you entered into a contract at the point of sale - couldn't they just apply the whole 'invitation to sale' thing and they're under no obligation to sell to you ?

Dont know enough about it to state one way or the other, and that fact a monetary transaction has already taken place probably rules to the buyer anyway - as long as it's clear what that transaction bought, and that'd be in the fine print, so might be worth a read over those invoices and links.

Any case, it's clearly not a good idea to **** off your customers regardless. So if they played hardball with jacked up pricing, they'd have to live with the fallout. Whether that's through legal means or loss of business.
 
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It's all supposed to be based on the USD rate correct. So at $1.24 there should be no change but goes up or down approx £20 per $0.01. Surely that rate was fixed when they purchased the stock to fulfill preorders though. How can it fluctuate while in transit?
 
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If they do add anything to my pre-order I will look into it and most likely take them to small claims court.

However they are likely to win, as I never took screenshots of every page during the purchase and have no proof that it wasn't there.
 
No longer in tripple digits for the solid :D

Moved from 116 to 99 and I'm pretty sure it's all cancellations. Hopefully there's stock movement at the end of this month and we get a bit more of an accurate idea of delivery.
 
momo56 said:
Waybackmachine has the preorder and terms pages saved prior to Jan 30th
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Thanks I will check it out - It might have the pre-order pages.
But does it have the check out process - As Scan could claim that there is an *asterix that states the price taken is not the final price.

I will see what happens but if they do ask for more money - Then I will take them to court.
 
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harmattan said:
it is completely, unambiguously illegal and goes against foundational contract law and precedent. There was nothing about price changes at the point of ordering which means they are contracted to provide the item for the agreed price they processed. The disclaimer about potential prices changes only appeared 4 days after launch. There is no grey area here, it's extremely clear.
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How can you prove when they changed the policy and that it was not in force at the time you ordered?
 
But a retailer dosnt even have to give a reason for an order cancellation. Look what MSI did, sold pre orders at a discount. Cancelled them with "out of stock" and then re did them at higher prices.

I don't think there is much recourse here if they give a full refund.
 
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momo56 said:
Waybackmachine has the preorder and terms pages saved prior to Jan 30th
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They do, and even a casual look shows terms which are fairly boilerplate and standard enough to protect themselves against pricing fluctuations and maintain the whole offer to buy scenarios. Been in place there since at least last year, and probably for years before - probably find similar in similar places.
It's obviously not good business practice to change the deal after money has been and gone, but whether or not they can is another thing entirely.
Your money is safe in any case, as they essentially refuse your offer to buy and return your money.
 
US increases price due to tariff but the increase is more than 10%, even 15-20%. Why would we think UK will still get the original price? all region market are kind of tie together.
I bet if US increase price by 20%, UK will at least have 5%-10% increase.
Just ready to get contact by email pay up or cancel pre-order.
Luckily it might not happen to OCUK because it is already 10% higher price. They might increase who knows.
I have notice so card gamerock palit was 2299, now OCUK lists at 2699.
Ready for 15% + increase
 
Matthew Hunt said:
Overclockers might be charging more per card, but least they aren't going to send you an email asking to pull your pants down and bend over whilst they charge an extra few hundred quid on your pre-order.
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They're charging £200-£500 more per card up front. While in principle, they're morally correct, in practice (i.e. the actual amount of money leaving your account), they could be worse, if not the same.

It will be interesting to compare the actual/final price for both sites when the cards do ship.

EDIT: Thinking about the actual prices for OCUK's 5080 cards, which were either the highest or joint highest for each SKU, it will be closer than you think.
 
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harmattan said:
it is completely, unambiguously illegal and goes against foundational contract law and precedent. There was nothing about price changes at the point of ordering which means they are contracted to provide the item for the agreed price they processed. The disclaimer about potential prices changes only appeared 4 days after launch. There is no grey area here, it's extremely clear.
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No.

:p

Edit: sorry to be flippant, I was more intending to be silly / humorous than be an arse.

For anyone else, I gave my comments on this topic earlier in the thread - here.
 
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It's hard to be excited about how any retailer has acted with this launch to be honest. Between the insane scalping at some retailers and while said competitor didn't do that at first, they still have their pre-order price increase nonsense and prebuild queue jumping. Admittedly I have some sympathy in that I bet the 5090 especially has been a lot of effort for very little money since there wasn't much stock to sell, but likely takes up a lot of support power with people asking where stuff is etc, but I dunno if it justifies the £600+ price jumps, lol.
 
Rawr said:
It's hard to be excited about how any retailer has acted with this launch to be honest. Between the insane scalping at some retailers and while said competitor didn't do that at first, they still have their pre-order price increase nonsense and prebuild queue jumping. Admittedly I have some sympathy in that I bet the 5090 especially has been a lot of effort for very little money since there wasn't much stock to sell, but likely takes up a lot of support power with people asking where stuff is etc, but I dunno if it justifies the £600+ price jumps, lol.
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Seeing Palit gamerocks listed for 2999 elsewhere. Drip feeding stock throughout the day literally 1 at a time. That thing was meant to be close to MSRP. Just gross
 
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