Max amount of ram,speed i3 14 gen + z690 mb

gasolin

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I have an asrock z690 pg riptide that uses ddr4 ram(should have been a ddr5 mb but im taking the challenge and using ddr 4 again) and i3 14100f, it's a very good cpu

First i was recommendded aegis 3200mhz cl16, i bought a pair knowning it might run at 3600mhz not the ram i bought but ram might run at 3600mhz with no problems at all

I regreded buying normal fast ram and especially ram without a heatsink (didn't knew there wasn't any heatsink until i got them), it does, g skill ripjaws v 3600mhz cl 16 runs without any problem 100% stable knock on wood

I can get ddr 4 4400 mhz or slightly faster for not a lot of money, what speed would you recommend ?

I wanna go past 3600-4000mhz. even something like 32gb 3200mhz cl 14 is stupid expensivem that option is not possible, if you don't wanna have mushkin ram, it's 200 euros, that price can give you 64gb 4266 or 4400mhz cl 19 or 20


Amoung of ram vs cpu power

There is a certain max power for every cpu, not power consumption but horse power

where is the memory,ram (amount of gb) limit with my cpu an i3 14100f ?

you have 32gb of memory,ram and most cpus can use that if you do heavy multitasking or multitasking + gaming or some video editing, maxed out it's 128gb but when does my cpu don't have enough power to use all of the ram i have, not all of my 32gb of ram or 128gb but how much ram can a 14100f use before it runs out of steam

let's say you wanna have 64gb but way before using close to 64gb the cpu don't have more power to use the additional ram !

That would be a good indication for how much ram you pc can handle and the max ram you should buy (not the same as the sweetspot for gaming), if your cpu runs at 95% using 32gb of ram or 20-25% when using 32gb of ram (i9 or ryzen 9)

First (95% usage of the cpu) you likely not to need more than 32gb of ram, if so on a low budget you might should have bought a 12400,13400 or something like a ryzen 5700x,7500f,7600, the second where your cpu is used 20-25% when using 32gb ram (i9 ?), you can easily use,get 64 gb and even 128gb should be no problem for the cpu to use
 
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you have 32gb of memory,ram and most cpus can use that if you do heavy multitasking or multitasking + gaming or some video editing, maxed out it's 128gb but when does my cpu don't have enough power to use all of the ram i have, not all of my 32gb of ram or 128gb but how much ram can a 14100f use before it runs out of steam
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that all depends on when your doing with it, video editing you can easy use it all

what is the system to be used for
 
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all things but video and photo editing

multitasking,twitch,tidal, youtube, games, browsing with a lot of fans open
 
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32gb of 3600mhz to 4000mhz what ever is cheapest will be fine.

but depending on the games i would have picked a bigger cpu than a 14100f, the 14/13400 would have been a much better choice
 
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gasolin said:
I wanted to try a 14100f it's really good
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what games are you planning to play, with only 4cores and 8threads it will run out of steam very fast on say AAA titles, but for older games and indie type stuff your fine

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With high speed ram
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yes but also no. at DDR4 level your just best grabbing 3600mhz, but DDR5 makes about 10% differance on adage
i had a 13500 for a bit and swapping to DDR5 had a massive feel.
 
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but when does my cpu don't have enough power to use all of the ram i have, not all of my 32gb of ram or 128gb but how much ram can a 14100f use before it runs out of steam

let's say you wanna have 64gb but way before using close to 64gb the cpu don't have more power to use the additional ram !
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It is really an impossible question to answer, because it depends on usage.

In general: you either have enough RAM, or you don't and you REALLY don't want to not have enough.

For example: if you're a developer, some projects won't even open if you don't have enough.

In that situation ^^ the CPU doesn't even matter, because you can't do any work at all.

Realistically, I would suggest that a person with a 14100 is unlikely to be using more than 32GB and certainly not more than 64GB, since otherwise they would have got a more powerful CPU.

In reference to the RAM speed: for the most part if you have a 14100, then games won't care (it'll be a few FPS, if you even notice).

It depends on the specific game, the resolution and the graphics card though, since if you have a 4090 and play at 1080p, you'll get more benefit from fast RAM than if you play at 4K with a 4060.
 
I play mostly racing games, it's very fine, it's actually as good or better than a 9700k,10600k,10700k

I bought the wrong mb meaning i forgot to check if it supported ddr 4 or ddr5, i desided to keep it an test it,use it, so fare it's stable and fast but not as fast as it can be, there for my ram questions

32gb 4400 mhz cl 19 is under 100 euros and my mb does support + 5000 mhz but those are super expensive

 
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gasolin said:
I play mostly racing games, it's very fine, it's actually as good or better than a 9700k,10600k,10700k
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but there 4 gens older, for a core to core comparison you should be a lot faster but any game that wasnt 6 cores plus you will gas out fast

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32gb 4400 mhz cl 19 is under 100 euros and my mb does support + 5000 mhz but those are super expensivbe
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but in the real world you will notice no differance at all, but 3600/4000 when ever is the best price
 
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gasolin said:
okay
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im not bashing on your set up not at all, the 14100 is good CPU in the right place, thats why i asked what games you play.
if you playing older games your good... very good. but if you decided to play the new battlefield 6 thats coming your system would be crippled thats all i was getting at.

genuinally 32gb of 3600Mhz ram is all you will ever need.
 
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im not that worried about my cpu, it doess very good in games i play

if i need more power im gonna get a new 14600kf that costs 200 euros, it's as good or better than a 12900k in games (a 12900k is not quiet there yest, it's stil, more than 200 euros for a used)

14 cores a 14400f that is close to the same price (145 euros) is only 10 cores
 
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gasolin said:
if i need more power im gonna get a new 14600kf that costs 200 euros, it's as good or better than a 12900k in games
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again yes but its 2 gens older...

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14 cores a 14400f that is close to the same price (145 euros) is only 10 cores
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but that have the same number of power cores. the 600 just as more E cores, your paying an extra 65 euro for next to nothing unless your overclocking
 
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I wanted to try the 14100f, used intel 12-14 gen is very limited

Later if i need it a 12600kf,13600kf and other versions can be bought for not a lot new (to avoid degraded used cpus)

netflix + gaming and a lot of chrome fans in the background (minimized) i peaked the highest ever + 26000mb without my cpu being used to it's max

Im shure 32gb ram isn't the limit for my cpu

regarding my cpu im super impressed with my cpu, it's not making anything stutter and it can play games more than okay

Games i play dakar dessert rally, dirt 5, disney speedstorm,.horizon zero dawn, just cause 4,far cry 6, project cars 2 and 3,the crew 2 , wreckfest,doom, tiny tinas assult on dragon keep a wonderland and facebook games
 
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gasolin said:
netflix + gaming and a lot of chrome fans in the background (minimized) i peaked the highest ever + 26000mb without my cpu being used to it's max

Im shure 32gb ram isn't the limit for my cpu
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Your CPU can use 192GB the same as any other 12th-14th gen CPU. There's no limit to memory because it is an i3.

You're just not likely to be doing anything with it that would use/justify that amount of memory.
 
not so much the max limit but limit relative to how much power the cpu has, i guess when using 64 gb ram the cpu usage is much higher than 16gb
 
gasolin said:
not so much the max limit but limit relative to how much power the cpu has, i guess when using 64 gb ram the cpu usage is much higher than 16gb
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No, there's no difference to CPU usage. Your CPU performs the same if you have 16GB or 64GB.

The only reason it is relevant to CPU power is because, for example: if you're crunching MASSIVE amounts of data, you would not be using a CPU like yours for that task.
 
it's not performance 16gb vs 64 but the difference in cpu usage

where the limit is, as mention 192gb i would never use,have in my pc with an i3 but 64 gb (more than 32gb) could be okay
 
Most people who has a higher tier cpu with 8 p cores + e core or a 12 core ryzen, don't need that much power, they just wanna have more than they need so games run 100% smoothly (or atleast as fast,smooth as it can with the gpu they have)
 
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