When you look at numbers of people owning such computers and how many actually buy AAA - the latter do not sell that well really. AA games from the East seem to be getting more and more popular in general and AAA of the Western publishers seem to be going down all the time on average. Eastern ones = gameplay >> all else. Western >> fidelity above all for some unknown to me reason, with gameplay being just bad, often.
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Again, I made no mention of officially announced price drops from nVidia. This wasn't individual retailers trying to move stock, it happened on the same day around May last year, across many different countries and models. If you want to believe that this was the AIBs or retailers getting in kahoots with each other to drop prices then you do you.
I haven't confused anything, all that matters is the direction of prices for the consumer at this point. You claimed that prices would only go up from here.
I made it clear in an earlier post that I wasn't talking about generation to generation, I was talking about prices coming down on things like the 5080 as stock becomes more available. It doesn't matter why they are where they are in the context of my original point, just that in a few months' time retailers won't be able to add £400 to a standard AIB model and clear stock.
You've made two claims in our discussion, the first being that AMD can price the 9070 at whatever they want at launch because of the availability of competing nVidia products, and that prices will only go up on said nVidia products. Neither of these claims seems to have any basis in reality.
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I don't know what AMD is doing at the moment, we know what 5070ti costs, we know its performance and we know what 9070xt performs, and its in the shops already just release the damn thing already. Unless there is some software issue that we don't know about, someone at AMD needs to disappear for this stupidity. They did a similar thing with the 9950x3D, its taking them so long to release.
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It's releasing right at the same time as Nvidia so don't see it as an issue now , what would have been annoying if had bigger gap between releases, pricing and availability that's another thing yet to find out
7800xt released 6 months after 4070 ?
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It's ok they are just setting up for the biggest jebait in history - it's going to perform better than expected, cost much less, and have widespread availability so that they hoover up 30% market share easily.
(Wishful thinking of course
)It's ok they are just setting up for the biggest jebait in history - it's going to perform better than expected, cost much less, and have widespread availability so that they hoover up 30% market share easily.
(Wishful thinking of course
What they will do instead is price it at £700 or more. Milk thier fans and drop prices in a couple of months once sales die down. Just like every other launch of late
Agree to disagree (and it feels you're not really reading what I say anyway).
As per the link, it seems that might be exactly what they plan to do. I hope it won't be the case. I also stated my reasoning.
As they have for many generations now (3k one was an oddity and crypto killed that idea for good anyway) - it's a fact you can't refute. I've been very clear from the start what I'm talking about with price drops, haven't I? We're not yet at "super" stage of this generation, to see how sales and stock were to judge Nvidia's next move. But so far, I've seen nothing that suggest things will get better soon.
We must be living on different planets, then, with a very different reality perception.
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Do I grow a fanbase? Should I start YouTube rant-channel?
Ayahuasca will be your first fan
That's just projection, it became quite clear early on that you hadn't read what I'd written with one of the tangents you went on.
The link is speculation and what they might do is very different from saying it's irrelevant what they price it at.
I don't know how many times I have to say this, but I wasn't talking about generation to generation or officially announced nVidia price drops. So no, there's nothing to suggest that prices for 5080's can only go up from where we are now. We have also seen some signs that things are getting better, with stock not selling out immediately and some models at other retailers dropping in price with every drop.
We must be living on different planets, then, with a very different reality perception.
No, it's just that it's best not to discuss things in absolutes and that your opinion is an objective one based on facts.
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The link is an actual AMD marketing material. Its interpretation is more of an educated guess. AMD doesn't have good track record here. We'll see soon enough how it turns out to be - such decisions are usually finalised last minute.
Where it was about facts I said so clearly. Fact is - Nvidia doesn't drop prices. Anything else you said is wishful thinking - it might or might not happen depending on the particular scalper. Timing and supply depend just on Nvidia though.
The link doesn't only contain AMD marketing material and an educated guess is still speculation.
That's not true, nVidia has cut prices before and people can read between the lines without needing an official statement from them when it's not FE cards. It's pretty clear to anyone who's been around this sector for a while what happened with the 4080 Super last year.
The absolute statements you made were that it doesn't matter what AMD prices the card at and that the price of the 5 series cards can only go up, neither of which are based on fact.
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Can you provide a link to such official event since 3k series release?
I have already covered that earlier, no?
I'll ignore your strawman again, though each time you bring that up you make it worse.
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I just said before, not that it's happened recently. That would only be officially announced price cuts as well.
You covered it with a straw man argument, yes.
I'll ignore your strawman again, though each time you bring that up you make it worse.
Again, this is just projection. I think the best thing is to nip this in the bud and come back to it in a few months' time when you can show us all that retailers are pricing 5 series cards above where they are now.
