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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

Wish RT just died, it's too much of a FPS hog.
Not even just FPS, the RT cores and AI cores actually take up die area and therefore silicon too! That's less of the die used for traditional cores for normal performance, unless a bigger die size is used to make up for it. It partially contributes to why we've been getting less performance boost in recent years. The same size silicon has less dedicated resources for traditional rendering.
So reviews and for sale on the same day!! Oh FFS!!
I think it's already been said, but reviews Wednesday and release Thursday. I wish it was Wednesday though, cos I already have the day off... less chance of me getting home from work to find an MSRP model still in stock :(
Plus it's got a fuse.
At least that's better than Nvidia options, none of those have fuses.
 
Had some interesting info come my way today, that on a strip down of a normal RX 9070 (non-XT) that is it has 24Gbps Samsung memory IC's, not sure why that would be, but they aren't exactly expensive so could be interesting to see which cards have them on.
From what i can tell i suspect AMD have gone hard on price/performance aspect with these cards, from using the cheaper N4C process to choosing to use GDDR6 rather than the X variant and lower capacity than previously, it seems like they've tried to get the most performance they can for the least price.

Whether that's reflected in the prices we'll be paying (how close cards are to MSRP) is yet to be known.
 
Refer to this:

There are four 9070XT's models that will fit without issue.
TPU also maintains a list of cards with things like boost clocks and dimensions, not knocking that spreadsheet as it contains some info that's missing from the TPU list, just the TPU list seems to have more cards on it and it's always good to have multiple lists. :)


Just scroll down.
 
TPU also maintains a list of cards with things like boost clocks and dimensions, not knocking that spreadsheet as it contains some info that's missing from the TPU list, just the TPU list seems to have more cards on it and it's always good to have multiple lists. :)


Just scroll down.

It also shows better images from all aspects of you care about aesthetics and you also get how many slots it will take up.

I’m on a Meshify C and am limited to 315mm card length (I am not regretting my case choice).

Thanks for posting the link.
 
Anyone know which 9070 xt models are possibly going to be at or close to msrp?
Prime, pulse, reaper, gaming oc and challenger i think are the msrp or near msrp cards at ocuk. Though AFAIK there isn't an official UK msrp and it's all down to the distributors as to what price they come in at.

Hopefully in the first wave at least those ones should be ~£600, if they sell out in the first hour I expect the price to go up, at least until the stock levels for all cards, nvidia included settles down. :(
 
From what i can tell i suspect AMD have gone hard on price/performance aspect with these cards, from using the cheaper N4C process to choosing to use GDDR6 rather than the X variant and lower capacity than previously, it seems like they've tried to get the most performance they can for the least price.

Whether that's reflected in the prices we'll be paying (how close cards are to MSRP) is yet to be known.
affordable 4k gaming cards
Having had one for a year it makes a huge difference
 
I am thinking of getting one of the Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT's. As I like how it has the hidden power connectors. But one thing I am trying to find out is if it turns off the fans when the card is idle or under light load, as this one thing that my current 2070 Super does that I would want any replacement to also do.
all the Nitros have silent fans which turn off under low load my older 6700 is currently sitting at desktop with no fans running and tbh when its fully cranked up you hardly ever hear the fans
 
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Anyone able to say (without certainty I know) how these will perform compared to a 4070 Ti Super? I'm after the 2.1 display port (I know its not true/full 2.1) but cannot justify a 5090, nor do I want to at Nvidias prices, nor do I want to wait four years... :p.
 
Apologies I missed the super bit. A 9070 XT should be about 10% plus faster in raster and similar or marginally better in RT. So not worth it and to be fair was never aimed at the 4070Ti or 7900 XT replacement.

As a 7900 XT owner I could justify it for RT uplift at least.
 
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Not sure I'd bother moving from a 4070ti super.
Agree with this @platypus . The new cards should land somewhere in this region and your GPU is right in it...

edited with thanks to Jono and Prostreet. Definitely a sidegrade if performance holds.

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Agree with this @platypus . The new cards should land somewhere in this region and your GPU is already ahead of it...

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Not sure that will be true. The perf AMD said the 9070xt has was a couple of percent off a 5070ti in normal raster.

However even then it's only going to be 10-15% faster than a ti super and probably the same in ray traced stuff.

Same vram too so wouldn't be worth the upgrade in my opinion.
 
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