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humbug said:
TPU review.

7900 XT: 100%
9070 XT: 112%
5070 Ti: 116%
7900 XTX 118%

Its good.
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No its not, unless you are cherry picking the Nitro+ review ($730 msrp and overclocked).

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Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ Review - Beating NVIDIA

AMD's new RDNA 4 GPUs are launching today. The Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ is a fantastic custom design with powerful cooling and whisper-quiet fans. In terms of FPS, the RX 9070 XT offers competitive performance with similarly priced NVIDIA options in both raster and ray tracing.
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TPU have the correct reference numbers here. They have a Sapphire Pulse in their possession.

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AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT Specs

AMD Navi 31, 2394 MHz, 5376 Cores, 336 TMUs, 192 ROPs, 20480 MB GDDR6, 2500 MHz, 320 bit
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[timko] said:
Gibbo has mentioned this in another thread so you was close...

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Typical AMD approach sell limited at MSRP rebates probably £50 exc. vat seen on rdna2 a lot.
 
The price cut isnt permanent? Gonna be in a world of hurt once the 5070 Ti starts coming into stock more often. There was a batch that sold for £729 a couple of days ago.

Deliberately misleading if true as well. Nvidia would get destroyed if they openly lied about MSRP.
 
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muon said:
The price cut isnt permanent? Gonna be in a world of hurt once the 5070 Ti starts coming into stock more often. There was a batch that sold for £729 a couple of days ago.

Deliberately misleading if true as well. Nvidia would get destroyed if they openly lied about MSRP.
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they lied about 4090 performance from a 5050 gpu or something? :D
 
santa said:
Looks like the Linux drivers kind of suck. And the power draw seems iffy. Gonna have to pass for now as I can't be arsed to be a beta tester. Shame.
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You're right, there is quite a bit of room for improvement for the upstream Mesa, definitely a waiting game, but it will come like it usually does.

Edit - saying that, apparently it is stable at least.
 
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kieran_read said:
TBH IMO it holds value even is it was only £50 - £100 cheaper, AMD have closed the gap enough that I don't see that much value in going Green over Red
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closed the gap on RT? sure, but it was a low bar to begin with, some of those RT benches are terrible tbf, i favour neither brand, but if your saying you wouldn't pay 50quid more for better raster, RT and far better efficiency, then i guess we know your colour :p;)
 
Distracted said:
That's a joke, right?
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Nvidia aren't openly lying. They sell cards at MSRP. Unsurprisingly everyone buys them out.

If AMD are giving a $50 rebate to hit MSRP and then dropping it, then that is outright lying. They obviously had a $650 MSRP to start with. Explains why it is now so close to the 9070.
 
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mahius said:
MSRP my rear. The 10x price hints show nothing under £600. It it was MSRP, then there'd be models going for £599.99 at most.
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There is likely a decent difference between AMD's MSRP (which, remember, is U.S. only), and the AIBs' MSRPs. Gibbo is likely referencing the latter.

ljt said:
Hmm, not the 50% improvement across the board over my 3080fe that was expected. I'm not sure I'll bother now :(
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Yeah, I'm slowly coming to the same conclusion.

My MBA 6900XT is basically the same perf as your card, and I had +50% raster in my mind as the threshold for an upgrade. But the big leaps in RT and FSR4 muddy the waters a bit in terms of assessing the upgrade. There's also good old "fine wine" gains to consider...

I still haven't played CP2077 yet though, and one of the things holding me back is the ability to max settings (excl. RT) at 1440p UW and hold 100fps (before frame gen), which the 9070XT should be able to do...

1Deep said:
Then again I've not bought a new gpu in 4 years, might get one out of boredom.
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But this is a risk :D

jimhaumman said:
I'd love to buy PowerColor Reaper,but I'm not happy with vram temps 90 and 92 C Max.
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Hmm, not good, this was one of the cards on my shortlist.

uscool said:
Unless you struggling to eat 60 ?
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Tbh, this is the wrong question to ask (for me at least).

60fps stopped being the acceptable floor for me years ago. My monitor does 1440p UW @ 160Hz, and I find it noticeable when it dips below ~120fps. Anything below 80fps and it starts to annoy me enough that I start lowering settings... or I just don't play that game anymore :eek:

Obviously this varies person-to-person, but I think >100fps gaming is the norm now for mid-high end PC gaming. Heck, even the consoles churn out 120fps these days.

Grim5 said:
That's not how math works, but I can't be surprised with the UK education system
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Reckon we can get the mods to set up a system that links here any time someone posts a % sign? Also the education system might be naff, but parents need to take some accountability too... as do grown-*** adults who should know better ;)
 
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Sumanji said:
Tbh, this is the wrong question to ask (for me at least).

60fps stopped being the acceptable floor for me years ago. My monitor does 1440p UW @ 160Hz, and I find it noticeable when it dips below ~120fps. Anything below 80fps and it starts to annoy me enough that I start lowering settings... or I just don't play that game anymore :eek:

Obviously this varies person-to-person, but I think >100fps gaming is the norm now for mid-high end PC gaming. Heck, even the consoles churn out 120fps these days.



Reckon we can get the mods to set up a system that links here any time someone posts a % sign? Also the education system might be naff, but parents need to take some accountability too... as do grown-*** adults who should know better ;)
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Personally I'm fine with single player games at 60fps + as long as it doesn't dip and with the eye candy, and most online games are 100fps + be it 120fps or 180fps doesn't make any difference to the experience to me
 
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I'd like to also think the 9070XT has some fine wine to unlock, because while it's not doing so in games yet, the 9070XT beats both the 7900xtx and rtx4080 super in 3d mark benches

Whether it's timespy, firestrike, steel nomad etc the 9070XT looks very strong and is actually under performing in games relative to its 3d mark scores
 
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100% committed now hopefully for a nitro, have my wife trained for fastest finger first whilst I am in a teams meeting tomorrow, however, I have been playing all evening on my new 9800x3d build and even with my current 7900gre this might be my biggest gaming upgrade I have made in the last 5 years, not a single judder or frame drop, I really wasn't expecting this kind of uplift.

With a new 9700xt I am going to be one happy camper.
 
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Grim5 said:
I'd like to also think the 9070XT has some fine wine to unlock, because while it's not doing so in games yet, the 9070XT beats both the 7900xtx and rtx4080 super in 3d mark benches
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Yeh, some games look very odd (IE suddenly the 9070xt is only 7900gre perf or something). Possible that these need driver improvements.
 
uscool said:
Personally I'm fine with single player games at 60fps + as long as it doesn't dip and with the eye candy, and most online games are 100fps + be it 120fps or 180fps doesn't make any difference to the experience to me
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Besty said:
90fps is the floor for me and the reason why 90hz is a common floor for phones and laptop screens.
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It is crazy how subjective this is... my wife and I play Fallout 76 together (she's on a 7800XT, and I have a 6900XT - so basically the same performance).

In areas where the fps tanks (which is a lot in this poorly optimized game...) I complain++, while she just shrugs her shoulders and can't understand why I'm whinging :cry:
 
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