NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - (PRE)ORDER DISCUSSION **NO COMPETITOR HINTING**

[sativa]

Just refresh and my queue position has disappeared altogether,
Was number 20, I wonder if that means it's shipping

sounds positive for you!

 

[craigypnoob]

Oh I dropped 2 places in the queue maybe they got a "Small Shipment" today.

 

[Rawr]

Have OCUK shipped all their preorders? I can't remember which cards they took preorders for and there aren't as many people posting here on their queue position or when they get their cards.

Has anyone preordered or recieved any of the liquid 5090's?

Thought it was just zotac solids left and maybe astrals. Feel like I've seen every thing else come up to be purchased at some point.

 

[Dave2150]

5090FE just arrived, giving it a spell in the sun before it begins it's long trek in the darkness

Seems this drop was 72 cards by the packaging; not great, not terrible.

 

[paddyp]

Honestly, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt here. I've been pretty rude about them in recent weeks, as my queue position fails to move, but the new revelations that retailers themselves are having to pay hugely inflated prices to pay stock sheds a different light on it. They took pre-orders at the "baseline" price for each model. To buy in stock of those cards now, they would have to pay hundreds of pounds more than those "baseline" prices. So they either do so and take the reputation hit from asking people with pre-orders to pay more, or they hold tight, get next to no stock for a while and hope things improve. For now, they're going for the latter.

This also makes it pretty clear why certain competitors with vastly inflated prices, particularly the... ah... one in need of an audit... keep getting decent-sized stock drops.

I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't sat on full deposits and providing zero information.

With the amount of interest they are gaining they could offset overpaying suppliers and still supply customers that have put in full deposits.

 

[Rogueywon]

I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't sat on full deposits and providing zero information.

With the amount of interest they are gaining they could offset overpaying suppliers and still supply customers that have put in full deposits.

I think people vastly over-state the interest they'll be getting. You can't store customer deposits in anything but the absolute safest of bank accounts, so they will be on very low interest rates. It certainly wouldn't offset the fact that some of these cards are apparently being offered to retailers at 50% above MSRP.

But yes, I agree they could do a lot more on the information front. They do need to explain why they get so little stock compared to other outlets.

 

[dualloop]

I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't sat on full deposits and providing zero information.

With the amount of interest they are gaining they could offset overpaying suppliers and still supply customers that have put in full deposits.

Thankfully mine is on finance (slate me all you want) so thankfully they only get a very small amount but like you say, it’s the lack of information that seems to be annoying most people.
I think most of us would be OK with this if information was more transparent

 

[paddyp]

I think people vastly over-state the interest they'll be getting. You can't store customer deposits in anything but the absolute safest of bank accounts, so they will be on very low interest rates. It certainly wouldn't offset the fact that some of these cards are apparently being offered to retailers at 50% above MSRP.

But yes, I agree they could do a lot more on the information front. They do need to explain why they get so little stock compared to other outlets.

Even at low% rates we are talking about millions of £ for several weeks.

 

[SuperElectric]

I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't sat on full deposits and providing zero information.

With the amount of interest they are gaining they could offset overpaying suppliers and still supply customers that have put in full deposits.

That sounds good and I agree, but mathematically that doesn't make sense.

If a preorder is at £2,200 and a distrbutor adds £220 to the wholesale price (whatever that price was), then they would need to earn 10 percent interest in a month just to make up the difference. 10% in one month is 120% annually

 

[Rogueywon]

Even at low% rates we are talking about millions of £ for several weeks.

But per customer it is tiny. I’d imagine the interest they’ve earned so far on my money with them wouldn’t even pay for a Starbucks coffee, let alone a hoik of several hundred pounds above the price I paid for my card.

 

[paddyp]

That sounds good and I agree, but mathematically that doesn't make sense.

If a preorder is at £2,200 and a distrbutor adds £220 to the wholesale price (whatever that price was), then they would need to earn 10 percent interest in a month just to make up the difference. 10% in one month is 120% annually

That's assuming the pricing remains as it currently is. If that is the case with this current approach they will never fulfill these preorders

 

[paddyp]

But per customer it is tiny. I’d imagine the interest they’ve earned so far on my money with them wouldn’t even pay for a Starbucks coffee, let alone a hoik of several hundred pounds above the price I paid for my card.

What percentage of interest are you basing that on?

 

[SuperElectric]

Gigabyte 5090 windforces just dropped at a couple sites, at £2,460 and £2,499.

These sites are normally among the best for pricing, so this doesn't bode well for the market, considering the Windforces are Gigabyte's cheapest cards

 

[Lyorian]

A competitor has a queue system. If ordered from anywhere else you don't get a queue position unfortunately

Yeah I know elsewhere has, I just assumed with the amount of people talking about on a "no competitor hinting" thread that I was missing a queue or what not from here

 

[harmattan]

Gigabyte 5090 windforces just dropped at a couple sites, at £2,460 and £2,499.

These sites are normally among the best for pricing, so this doesn't bode well for the market, considering the Windforces are Gigabyte's cheapest cards

£2500 for a... Windforce, the Dacia Sandero of graphics cards. Oof.

 

[stevenwright637]

sounds positive for you!

Just got dispatch email.
So they have had a shipment of at least 20 5070ti
I wonder if the person that canceled last night regrets it

 

[crashvoodoo]

A 5090 astral dropped at 2800 just now, that's nearly an extra 200 on what I've outlayed already. If it comes around again at that price I'm jumping on it I think. My times worth more than that

 

[SuperElectric]

A 5090 astral dropped at 2800 just now, that's nearly an extra 200 on what I've outlayed already. If it comes around again at that price I'm jumping on it I think. My times worth more than that

Those astrals sold out pretty quick, by the time I got the notfication they had already gone

 

[harmattan]

What stock alerting app are you all using? Most of those I've used are focused on US stores/market.

 

[Varys]

This whole thing is so weird. Why on earth would they do a launch with no stock and still have no stock weeks later and for the foreseeable future. It makes no sense. I can’t believe that they’re restricting supply to this extent just to keep the prices high.

It's the new marketing strategy of artificial scarcity and it seems to work.

At xmas girls were going crazy over UGG Lowmel boots and my daughter wanted some for Christmas. They were launched in October 2024 but there was hardly any supply. MSRP is £140. Had all the alerts on stock trackers etc. The few that were available were selling for £350-£500 on Ebay and Stockx and they were selling in minutes.

The reason is the manufacturers can make more money by restricting supply and creating FOMO, than tying up working capital and going to the cost and effort of manufacturing in volume. It is exactly the same as these graphics cards.

Think about it. The cost of making 1000 widgets is £5000 (£5 unit cost) which Moneybags ltd retails for £20 per unit making £15,000 profit, or Moneybags ltd restricts supply and only makes 500 widgets at a total cost of £2500 and retails them for £50 per unit, making £22,500 profit. In this example Moneybags ltd's capital outlay is reduced by £2500 and profit is increased by £7500 despite selling fewer units. More profit for less investment.

I'm sure it happens with other high desirability luxury products too