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Whichever way it goes RBR aren't coming out of it well.
Yuki does crap - Lawson's career has been decimated for nothing - RBR are going to look like utter ****.
Yuki does well - should'a been hired in the first place - RBR are going to look like utter ****.
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tbh the currnet RBR setup is not a car that I would hire a rookie to drive, it needs someone who has a proven ability to adapt their style and drive a car that is a real handful, like Max. surprised RBR research isn't looking into cloning tech to make 2 maxs 
that would be fun to see
that would be fun to see
Quite, he seemed very depressed and stressed in the post race interview so maybe they felt he isn't up to it mentally.
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if Yuki does not perform in the 2nd seat either, then surely they would keep Lawson in the RB (assuming he can drive that car) as it proves that he hasn't done anything wrong and is capable.
ending his career over this would be super harsh, but judging by the comments so far in the thread wouldn't be out of character for RBR either.
ending his career over this would be super harsh, but judging by the comments so far in the thread wouldn't be out of character for RBR either.
Max(and his dad) are not fans of all this extra curricular stuff either. Remember what happened with coco pops gate? I can honestly see him somewhere else next year to get away from this noise that seems to follow red bull around..
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Because engineers repeatedly say time and time again (even Newey), that they set out to design the fastest car possible. They don't design in understeer or oversteer, faster or slower turn in etc.. If a driver wants that, that is something for the setup.
We see it over and over that the best drivers are able to adapt to the car.
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I think Max would be nuts to leave for 2026; he's likely got some contractual "outs" anyway meaning he can pick and choose when he leaves. He might as well stick around for 2026 and see which team does best with the new regulations.
There could easily be seats at Merc, Ferrari, Aston Martin, maybe even McLaren going for 2026 depending on other movement/retirements, etc
You’re right, it would definitely make sense to stay and see what the 26’ RB will be like but I just remember them being really fidgety last time there was all this external noise.
Yeh, that would be the smart play.
No team is realistically going to turn him down for 2027, so he's better off seeing who has nailed the new rules. He will be gutted if its Red Bull again and he's left as that may mean his chances of equalling or beating Schumacher/Hamilton go down the toilet.
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Exactly... he doesn't want to do an Alonso!
But is two races insane?
They were getting berated (rightfully so) for sticking with Perez last year resulting in them losing the constructors. I imagine they have learnt from that, and want to try and get a driver in that seat who can score good points so that their constructor position doesn’t end up embarrassing by the end of the year.
Whilst Max will still score good points for them even if the car isnt fastest, if it is only him they will likely end up only 4th. They have only finished below 3rd (in 4th) once in the last 16 years. Anything out of the top 3 in the constructors for them is a massive failure.
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RB should have at least been allowed to race at Suzuka, a circuit he’s very comfortable at.
Yes.
They were getting berated because Pérez had already been clearly lacking before the season began, and only got worse. He was three seasons in, and hadn't impressed in any of them - some heroic defending in '21 and a few momentary flashes aside. Not really comparable.
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Personally I think so. Three drivers in four races certainly is, when you look at it like that.
Let's not forget how lucky RB are to have a sister team. They're proving their unfair advantage here by immediately having access to someone like Tsunoda who has driven 89 F1 races. No other team can do that without poaching someone from another team - which would be nigh-on impossible to do mid-season, let alone two races in. Otherwise they'd be floundering and would quite rightly say goodbye to the constructors race for real and they'd be in a whole heap of trouble. I wonder if Zak Brown might have something to say on that if Tsunoda performs well... Marko certainly is overly protected by the fact there are two teams. He would have been out on his ear by now in another team.
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But it isnt like he is just struggling a bit though. He has been pretty much plumb last in all qualy sessions and made little progress in races, whilst his teammate has literally been in the top four for every session so far (qualy, sprint race etc).
Even if he can improve by a few tenths - half a second it probably wont be enough and he'll still be struggling to get in the points.
If he was at least getting in to q2 and snapping at the heels of the points or getting 9th/10th, then i would agree; give him more time. However, he looks REALLY poor out there.
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Merc could take from Williams and Ferrari from Haas with little to no resistance. Obviously not the exact same situation, but there's enough of a relationship there for them to lean on.
Dollars to donuts that he leaves RBR and - like Vettel before him - almost instantly becomes more likeable, leading to him being more loved and respected.
It was two whole race weekends. In what looks to be a car with some...eccentric (read: evil) handling traits. At best it has an operating window that rivals the narrow sidepod Merc of a couple of seasons ago for trickiness.
I guess we'll see. If Yuki is closer to Max or - and this would be hilarious - turns out to be faster than him in this Starting Money Special™ then it still reflects poorly on RBR's management for refusing to consider putting him in the car to begin with.