EV general discussion

[jpaul]

thought that immediately comes to mind - what was the relative miles driven by the ICE&BEVs , maybe the ADAC report details that, I missed it ?

e: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/study-says-drivers-are-doing-more-miles-evs-petrol-cars ?

e2: top gear article not just considering newer cars so data source irrelevant

 

[OspreyO]

Seen this kinda study before usually EVs not as reliable as you'd expect. Surprised this is so positive. Of course there's often anti EV bias or spin on such reports.

While there are less mechanical in issues. There are often issues with 12v batteries and software updates and things like door locks and charging doors and onboard chargers which are in effect a breakdown for the owner.

Personally I've been disappointed with the reliability of our last few ICE cars.

 

[TNA]

Yes, every time you service a Toyota you get an extra year warranty (up to 10 years/100,000 miles)

However as pointed out earlier it isn't quite as comprehensive as the original, but would probably mitigate most bigger repair bills. The one main concerning exclusion is the infotainment screen/unit. I imagine that would cost a fortune to replace if it went wrong....

Here is what is says on the Toyota website:

What’s covered and what’s not covered?
This new Toyota warranty covers the same parts and labour as the three-year manufacturer’s warranty provided on new Toyota vehicles and the one-year manufacturer warranty that’s standard with approved used vehicles.

It does not include wear and tear items, bodywork, paint, interior trims and maintenance parts. A vehicle health check is part of the service package, which includes all mechanical and electronic parts, which helps potential problems to be detected at an early stage. Any existing defects present at the time of service are excluded from the warranty.

Full terms and conditions can be downloaded from toyota.co.uk.

Although the warranty cover is uniform, different types of vehicle owner will have a different customer experience.

I clicked the link and had a quick look over the pdf and it mentions it excludes:

e) Multimedia system screen and buttons;

However in the part where it says what is covered it mentions "Multimedia systems". To me that reads like they won't cover physical damage to it rather than if it stops working on its own?

Also the article suggests the warranty is the same as original 3 year warranty.

How Toyota warranty works

Read about the new Toyota warranty here.

mag.toyota.co.uk

 

[Jono8]

Here is what is says on the Toyota website:



I clicked the link and had a quick look over the pdf and it mentions it excludes:

e) Multimedia system screen and buttons;

However in the part where it says what is covered it mentions "Multimedia systems". To me that reads like they won't cover physical damage to it rather than if it stops working on its own?

Also the article suggests the warranty is the same as original 3 year warranty.

How Toyota warranty works

Read about the new Toyota warranty here.

mag.toyota.co.uk

Yes, maybe. It's a bit vague. Maybe I'll contact them. It would be concerning if the infotainment screen and unit is not covered as I imagine having that replaced costs a fair whack!

 

[MartinPrince]

A friend going through the settings in my Polestar 2 asked me if I use "One Pedal Drive" and if most EV drivers do use it. I don't use it myself though I think there are supposed to be some benefits in doing so.

Do any of you folks use "One Pedal Drive" or whatever it's called in your EV's?

 

[GGizmo]

When do people think they will use lithium polymer batteries in vehicles?

From what I've heard they charge faster and are less potentially flammable.

They are in phones at the moment.

 

[Penfold101]

A friend going through the settings in my Polestar 2 asked me if I use "One Pedal Drive" and if most EV drivers do use it. I don't use it myself though I think there are supposed to be some benefits in doing so.

Do any of you folks use "One Pedal Drive" or whatever it's called in your EV's?

No, I don’t like it at all - I have my Polestar set up like a normal automatic, so if I take my foot off the accelerator it will just slowly coast down to ‘idle’, but with creep mode on it will move if it’s in gear with the brake off.

 

[Simon]

Rented this in Koh Samui. 2kW EV moped with 1.8kwh battery, good fun just need to watch pedestrians who don’t hear it. I guess it does about 10-15m/kwh? Comes with a 1kW charger which makes charging easy at the accom. No 2 stroke smoke fest either.

 

[sandys]

A friend going through the settings in my Polestar 2 asked me if I use "One Pedal Drive" and if most EV drivers do use it. I don't use it myself though I think there are supposed to be some benefits in doing so.

Do any of you folks use "One Pedal Drive" or whatever it's called in your EV's?

I use it in my Volvo seem to get better regen than just using brakes, I'd imagine it's more effective on a Polestar with double the power motors, it's not going to change things drastically over standard braking just means it's immediately regenning on any slowdown nice in city I use it instead of brakes, of course it won't Coast in this mode so not so handy on the motorway etc. That said I did a trip to Manchester yesterday 220 one way I checked the trip journal thing and it recovered 20kw on the journey, I only have a 14.9 usable battery in the T8 so it does a reasonable job.

 

[Haggisman]

A friend going through the settings in my Polestar 2 asked me if I use "One Pedal Drive" and if most EV drivers do use it. I don't use it myself though I think there are supposed to be some benefits in doing so.

Do any of you folks use "One Pedal Drive" or whatever it's called in your EV's?

I used to use it in my eNiro (well, as close as you can get - regen on max, hold the left paddle when I want to fully stop), however about a year ago after watching a few videos on driving efficiently I decided to try out zero regen/auto (still using the paddle to completely stop at junctions/lights etc.), and it does seem to have made a decent increase in my efficiency. Previously I was sitting at 3.4mi/kwh average, whereas I'm currently at 3.6 and it's not even summer yet! Was also seeing much higher single trip averages (high 4s - low 5s) compared to the previous high 3s - low 4s.

1 pedal drive is nice, but for me at least I found it much less efficient, and you can't relax your right foot at all, as soon as you shift your weight or take it off the pedal you start to decelerate (potentially quite quickly depending on the car's regen!).

I find my current settings a lot more relaxing/effortless - once you get used to it, the auto regen mode on the eNiro is actually really good; there are a few situations where it doesn't quite behave as it should (there's a certain bend on an uphill section of road near me with parked cars either side, and it always switches to full regen there), but most of the time it does what you expect.

 

[MartinPrince]

No, I don’t like it at all - I have my Polestar set up like a normal automatic, so if I take my foot off the accelerator it will just slowly coast down to ‘idle’, but with creep mode on it will move if it’s in gear with the brake off.

I don't like it either but can see occasions where it might be beneficial if one can ever get used to it.

Though I've turned creep off and now prefer it that way - so when you stop at traffic lights etc it's like an auto handbrake so the car doesn't move even when on an incline/decline. It means my foot gets more rest.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

A friend going through the settings in my Polestar 2 asked me if I use "One Pedal Drive" and if most EV drivers do use it. I don't use it myself though I think there are supposed to be some benefits in doing so.

Do any of you folks use "One Pedal Drive" or whatever it's called in your EV's?

Most of the time now. Took some getting used to. I rarely use the brake. Can be pain needing your foot on the accelerator all the time, so on longer stretches I just activate one of the self driving modes.

I don't like it either but can see occasions where it might be beneficial if one can ever get used to it.

Though I've turned creep off and now prefer it that way - so when you stop at traffic lights etc it's like an auto handbrake so the car doesn't move even when on an incline/decline. It means my foot gets more rest.

I’ve done the same. I prefer it to hold.

 

[Penfold101]

I don't like it either but can see occasions where it might be beneficial if one can ever get used to it.

Though I've turned creep off and now prefer it that way - so when you stop at traffic lights etc it's like an auto handbrake so the car doesn't move even when on an incline/decline. It means my foot gets more rest.

If I really want to I can press the brake down twice and it goes into a hold mode so I can take my foot off. A lot of the time I’m in adaptive cruise and let it slow/stop/carry on itself anyway!

 

[Mr Jack]

Do any of you folks use "One Pedal Drive" or whatever it's called in your EV's?

Nope. I don't find any real benefit from it, and I don't see any reason to use the less efficient mode. I think if I did more slow, stop/start, crawls through city traffic then it'd make a lot more sense.

 

[OspreyO]

A friend going through the settings in my Polestar 2 asked me if I use "One Pedal Drive" and if most EV drivers do use it. I don't use it myself though I think there are supposed to be some benefits in doing so.

Do any of you folks use "One Pedal Drive" or whatever it's called in your EV's?

Use one pedal in traffic and hilly b roads. Don't use it on motorways, or as it defaults to off when I forget to turn it on. They say it makes little difference as the car regenerates when you brake anyway. I think it regenerates a little more energy. Could be my imagination.. Different in different cars afaik.

I spent a life time ICE driving as normal with light acceleration and little braking and where I can. As smooth as possible and least amount of braking. (Unless driving hard). So coasting in the EV is more natural to me.

Doing a long journey in the EV on motorway with coasting Vs the same journey on slower B hilly back roads with one pedal driving the back roads gave me far more range and cut out a charging stop. But that might be more about the route than one pedal driving..

 

[Jono8]

Placed an order for an MG XPower a couple of weeks back, should be here anytime soon. Soon as I have the car I'll be getting EDF to fit the charger for £500 with there EV tariff.

Anyone have experience's with EDF for installs?

I am shocked just how expensive the equipment is to fit, it just looks like a plastic box with a PCB inside? £900 for ones I've been quoted.

Have you received yours yet? The silly part of me wants to throw practicality in the bin and just get one for the silly acceleration. Ive been delving deeper through reviews, and a lot of the negativity about how it goes around corners seems over the top too. A lot of review say it is fine and not too bad in the twisty bits. I can accept it wont be as amazing around a B road as a Civic Type R or something, but as long as its relatively fun and compliant id be happy.

At £25k brand new, it just seems like such a bargain

 

[Grim5]

Have you received yours yet? The silly part of me wants to throw practicality in the bin and just get one for the silly acceleration. Ive been delving deeper through reviews, and a lot of the negativity about how it goes around corners seems over the top too. A lot of review say it is fine and not too bad in the twisty bits. I can accept it wont be as amazing around a B road as a Civic Type R or something, but as long as its relatively fun and compliant id be happy.

At £25k brand new, it just seems like such a bargain

Join an MG Facebook group and see how everyday someone complains about how something major is broken on theirs and the dealership can't fix it

 

[Jono8]

Join an MG Facebook group and see how everyday someone complains about how something major is broken on theirs and the dealership can't fix it

True. Equally there appear to be an awful lot of happy owners who love it though.

 

[Grim5]

True. Equally there appear to be an awful lot of happy owners who love it though.

If it works then sure, the price is low and they are ok to drive. I personally know some people who are planning to switch to byd in the hopes of more reliability but byd is also more expensive

 

[Simon]

Pedal modes don’t really matter with Active cruise in traffic. Just follows the car in front, effortless. I do like the MEB flick to b mode on big downhill slip roads that come to a stop. Can max the regen without needing brakes.

I missed active cruise when I drove my ICE to Belgium last month.