Relocation to Spain Experience

Tram said:
Policy was changed a few years ago it went from 50% to 100%. But council failed to follow the new rules. They also mismanaged their income from service charges and upgrades.

I worked a year at a council property department
as a temp. they had savills selling council property way below market value. I remember a charity that helped the local committee wanted to buy the property but they refused and sold it to a private developer for less than what the charity offered. They also had another property with around 84 flats empty for 6 years. I was really annoyed about that. There's plenty of properties the council had that could be used for housing people but we're empty for years.
Councils are completely mismanaged and waste a lot of financial resources, it so corrupt.

Then again housing associations didn't want RTB on their doorstep. As I mentioned look who owns housing associations, once I saw who controls them I saw them in a different way. I found out private companies hiding behind none profits companies.

I realised my romantic view of the UK was not the reality and this was another reason why I need to leave. Yes, everywhere has there issues but this country corrupt in every single area.

Landlord are making millions from housing seekers. Charging double the rates. Yet failed to house UK nationals. Demark have introduced polices to kick people out of the country if they don't follow the rules. It been reported asylum claims have dropped by 90%.
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1) Although you have joined this exchange, you didn't address the point under discussion; How would councils have been able to applying overage clauses when forced to sell RTB properties?

2) You seem to be talking about the current rules, my message you quoted was a response to one about what happened in the past.

3) Just because you worked for a year in a department and saw some things you believe were incompetent, doesn't mean that every council is "completely mismanaged" and "corrupt".

4) Yes private landlords are making a fortune from the system. But it's weird that some people seem determined to put all the blame on local councils for the impact of policies forced on them by the government.
 
Yep - Pyongyang would show you what trade-offs you would(n't) make in living standard for a nice climate/geography, Holland definitely doesn't - lol
[ climate/geography is a top trump. ]
 
Uther said:
Isn't this supposed to be a thread about moving to Spain?
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Yes, I just posted my reasons why we decided to emigrate. So far, so good collecting documents.
I am looking at a few ways how I can enter the EU hassle free.

Didn't want to derail the thread.
 
Been away a while. Thank god for multi quote! Although i'm avoiding the politics :p

rp2000 said:
Cl@ve pin is a waste of time imo and slowly bring deprecated. I used it for about 5 years but now I just use a digital certificate, much easier to use! I got the certificate as I have a permeant residents card (TIE), but I think you can still get one even if you have NIE.
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Cheers, i do have my digital certificate and agree it works well, i was mainly trying to get Cl@ve for access to the DGT app, although maybe it's possible to install the certificate on an iphone? Something i've wanted to do but not spent enough time looking


@Tram Good luck with the move. Having family entitlements to an EU citizenship certainly makes things easier. I would suggest some points though

1 - As an EU Citizen, you technically don't need to find the high demand jobs as you'd have a right to work here. Do you speak Spanish? Without that it might be difficult to find a job in Spain unless you get a job with a huge multinational which enforces English as a language.

2 - Jobs here generally pay a lot less than the UK, so whilst you've mentioned taxes and salary depression in the UK, you might actually end up with less afterwards. I was applying for a mortgage and the bank manager was shocked at my salary vs my profession as i continued with my UK contract converted to Euros and switched to a Spanish subsidiary. Add on the fact that employee benefits are generally quite low (no pension which wipes off 5-10% aswell) and you need to be better at putting money away for retirement. The Spanish pension system is more aligned to salary vs the set amount in the UK which helps but i still wouldn't want to rely on it. Depending on age you also might not be entitled to it based on years working in Spain.

3 - Food wise i'd disagree too. The notion the UK has rubbish food is crazy. There's fantastic places to eat for virtually every cuisine. Whilst it's different where i am vs Madrid/Barcelona i find a lot of Spanish food relatively boring. A huge amount of tapas bars just deep fry frozen food, unless you order ham/cheese. Same with Paella, i find it hugely overrated. There are great restaurants around but i would say i prefer the UK for eating out. Obviously everything tastes better in the sun with a cold beer :D

4 - I used this place for translation/apostilling. Seemed one of the cheapest. You might have some success if you have a lot vs a consulate.
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Martynt74 said:
Been away a while. Thank god for multi quote! Although i'm avoiding the politics :p



Cheers, i do have my digital certificate and agree it works well, i was mainly trying to get Cl@ve for access to the DGT app, although maybe it's possible to install the certificate on an iphone? Something i've wanted to do but not spent enough time looking
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The apps are a bit all over the place. I just installed miDGT on Android and I only have Clave or electronic DNI login(so having the certificate on your phone wont help as there is no login prompt via the app for people like us). However, the webpage version ( https://sede.dgt.gob.es/es/ from a laptop) does allow digital certificate login, and I tested it with my certificate! In theory, for the apps that support it, you can install the certificate on any android or ios device as its just a standard .p12 or .pfx certificate.


rp2000
 
Nice one. I probably don't need it, and i'm actually fairly impressed by the online systems. Compared to the DVLA the DGT is well ahead!
 
That Jekka Gal said:
Interesting to know why people want to leave the uk though.

If you’re an IT professional, like myself, I’m sure today’s news is yet another kick in the teeth & if I hadn’t left already would have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.

Indian professionals living in Britain will spared from paying national insurance in the UK for 3 years
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I saw that, influx of cheaper Indian IT workers and at the same time 3 years of no NI.
As I said the UK cares for none UK citizens over UK Citizen's. You can see them creating sub companies every 3:years to get around NI.
Possible other none Indian companies doing the same via India. You can already start to see the loopholes.

But luckily I am in the process of leaving.
 
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Tram said:
I saw that, influx of cheaper Indian IT workers and at the same time 3 years of no NI.
As I said the UK cares for none UK citizens over UK Citizen's. You can see them creating sub companies every 3:years to get around NI.
Possible other none Indian companies doing the same via India. You can already start to see the loopholes.

But luckily I am in the process of leaving.
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While I have worked with many good Indian colleagues, India is one of the most corrupt places on earth & even my ex colleagues have admitted to this so what you say will doubtlessly come to pass.
 
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That Jekka Gal said:
While I have worked with many good Indian colleagues, India is one of the most corrupt places on earth & even my ex colleagues have admitted to this so what you say will doubtlessly come to pass.
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There a bit more to this treaty, but UK will end up worse off and India better off, UK treasury will lose.

Companies will favour India workers over British workers.

I think the UK is one of the top most corrupt countries, I don't know if its number 1 but it is definitely in the top 5 or top 10 But then thats my view.
They will have a competitive advantage over other companies.

They are going to collapse the NHS add this to the 1000s of foreign nationals coming to use the NHS for free then leave.

I don't mind paying taxes to help the less well off British citizens those that have disabilities or traumas etc... but this is just not on.
Just more reason to leave this broken island.
 
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Martynt74, if you know any decent areas in Madrid or Barcelona.
I was looking at Viladecans or Catelldefels, prices seem to be decent, just south of Barcelona along the coast. Seems to have good access to the city.
 
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Tram said:
Martynt74, if you know any decent areas in Madrid or Barcelona.
I was looking at Viladecans or Catelldefels, prices seem to be decent, just south of Barcelona along the coast. Seems to have good access to the city.
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Unfortunately i'm the wrong person for this. I've only visiting Barcelona for around a day and whenever i go to Madrid it's for work and i stay around the Chamartin area in the northern part of the city.

I imagine with both those cities a big factor would be budget. Same with the UK, you could have 2 seemingly similar areas with vastly varied property costs.

I'd probably also throw in Valencia. It's one of the most popular destinations now. A little smaller than the big 2, but still with a lot of cool parts and still on the coast.
 
Martynt74 said:
Unfortunately i'm the wrong person for this. I've only visiting Barcelona for around a day and whenever i go to Madrid it's for work and i stay around the Chamartin area in the northern part of the city.

I imagine with both those cities a big factor would be budget. Same with the UK, you could have 2 seemingly similar areas with vastly varied property costs.

I'd probably also throw in Valencia. It's one of the most popular destinations now. A little smaller than the big 2, but still with a lot of cool parts and still on the coast.
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Thxs, not interested in Valencia, poor employment prospects in my area.

I was looking at middle class areas, you know the ones that don't have gypsies or low class crims.
 
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Tram said:
There a bit more to this treaty, but UK will end up worse off and India better off, UK treasury will lose.

Companies will favour India workers over British workers.

I think the UK is one of the top most corrupt countries, I don't know if its number 1 but it is definitely in the top 5 or top 10 But then thats my view.
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I worked for half a year in Spain.at the end of the seventies, we were in the EU Spain wasn't so it was not quite legit. However your downer on the UK is getting very boring. We have given tens of thousands of jobs to Spamish youth when their unemployment was through the roof we still have large contingents of Europeans resident here and welcome to come and work.
If you think that the UK is corrupt try Spain.

Currently there us huge opposition to all their property being tucked up by Germans. Swedes. Brits etc. for second homes and rentals. As much or worse as here.

Spain is heading for a period of desertification in the south, lack of water. Due largely to huge vegetable farming under glass with African slave labour and excess water extraction. Largely due to corruption as well. Additionally bottling companies extraction water then selling back to the population at huge profit.

No country is perfect so don't ho off with rose coloured spectacles expecting anything but a warmer climate.

@ColdAsIce back at you .
 
Tram said:
Thxs, not interested in Valencia, poor employment prospects in my area.

I was looking at middle class areas, you know the ones that don't have gypsies or low class crims.
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You will see both those types of people in both the areas you mentioned, albeit less than in Barcelona city.

If seeing "gypsies" ("jitanos" locally) and/or immigrants upsets you then you need to move a village or something! Spain is not that different to the UK in towns or cities, as you would think. Probably just as muticultural tbh.


rp2000
 
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