**Unofficial Tyre Thread**
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The sport version sounds really interesting
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The PS4S are very compliant on UK roads. They’re about as compliant as you can get in a performance tyre. The downside is the steering is rubbery.
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No experience yet but buying a set myself this week, from all accounts a very capable tyre.
Bit outdated now performance wise compared to some of the others though personally I still rate them as one of the top tyres for actually using in wet weather despite some of the others doing better now in raw benchmark numbers, good rolling resistance and actually handle really well when temperatures drop, on the other hand they become vague and a bit lumpy in properly warm weather (as in like 28+C and dusty dry) and while quiet they have a dull droning sound which can get annoying on long journeys. I've had 2 sets which while not a problem developed crazy cracking between the tread blocks after 2-3 years which other tyres I've not seen until they are like 7 years old.
I've not used the UltraContact that I recall - the closest I've got experience with is probably the Premium Contact 6 which I liked but they do tend to wear quickly - supposedly the UC have improved wear life.
The Goodyears are pretty average in my experience - do the job, a choice you can't really go wrong with but personally I lean more towards Bridgestone or Conti.
(There are other posters here much better qualified to give an opinion on the Michelins than I am)
The RainExpert 5 aren't that well regarded for dry driving by anyone I know who has them or previously used them - one of my colleagues had them on his van and hated them for doing any distance in the dry and swapped them for Goodyears.
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Have the Primary 4+ on our Countryman Cooper S. Seem well planted and easily cope with 190hp.
On a Smart car, on a tiny island whose speed limit is 40mph iirc I'm not sure it matters which you pick
So probably in this order…
1. Continental UltraContact
2. Michelin Primacy 4 / Bridgestone Turanza T005
3. Goodyear EfficientGrip Compact 2
4. Uniroyal RainExpert 5
I can’t get the Primacy 4+ as they don’t make them in the size I need. The Continentals came out in Spring 2022 while the Michelin and Bridgestone came out in Jan 2018. The Goodyears are the newest they came out in Feb 2023.
The Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance I had on my original list are an old tyre, came out in March 2013 so probably not worth considering.
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Primacy 5 is out soon
Don't encourage him
The PSS * on my M2 are complete trash, even with plenty of tread. Great if you want to drive like a yob and show off your DORIFTO skills, but trying to make progress and having the back step out in second and third is frustrating.
I'll keep the fronts as they're also pretty new, so what's best now in 265/35 19 for the rear? I was probably going to go with CS7, but Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport are the cheapest.
P Zero * are also not badly priced. Are these for the new G80 or something?
Cheers
I'll keep the fronts as they're also pretty new, so what's best now in 265/35 19 for the rear? I was probably going to go with CS7, but Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport are the cheapest.
P Zero * are also not badly priced. Are these for the new G80 or something?
Cheers
Already out, but like the Primacy 4+ aren’t available in my size…
https://www.asdatyres.co.uk/michelin/primacy-5
But useful to know what size you need?
However as mentioned above - I'm not sure it matters a huge amount which tyres you buy - literally any mid range tyre in your size will be fine for doing 40mph in your smart car.
It’s the fronts, need 165/65R15
Yeah they are good enough for my needs as you quite rightly say.
The only thing is my car came with Dunlop Sport BluResponse (Goodyear) from the factory and I don't really want to fit anything new that's inferior. A set of tyres will last me 10 years and I only need to replace them due to age. So I can afford a bit more on them as I'm not replacing them every few years.
They aren't going to be noticeably inferior.
Am I correct in thinking your highest speed limit is 40mph over there, in which case it's not going to make a huge amount of difference.
Spend less and replace them slightly more often than the 10 year age recommendation.
Buy something from a decent named brand and they won't be inferior. I had bluresponces on my old car and the efficentgrips I also had on that car felt no different.
The only noticeable difference for me was switching to all seasons but that would be massive overkill for your use case.
The only noticeable difference for me was switching to all seasons but that would be massive overkill for your use case.