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I’m just working out how much better this integging go drive. I was lucky so go the £20 a month version for all charging and the day rate is down at 23p.
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Whats per wheel? The R5E is 4800 NM wheel torque, total, for all driven wheels combined. Not 4800 per wheel. It's right on the Renault website so that defnitely is the case.
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The it’s got a twin motor rear hasn’t it. So that’s per Motor/wheel
It will have a higher top speed as well to be fair so likely to be different
It will have a higher top speed as well to be fair so likely to be different
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Yeah cool. Then we add the front 
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Shows how much attention I’ve been paying I thought the 3E was 3 motors! 
Edit....... just realised you said Mazda. Not sure if that's compatible on Octopus IOG. Might need a wall charger then, but that's quite the wasted outlay for a PHEV.
Just use the granny charger, it's all you need for a PHEV. It's what I use for our X5 45e (21.4kWh).
Get on Octopus Intelligent Go tariff (IOG). You get 7p/kWh between 23.30 and 05.30. But you can use the app to choose "departure time" for a full battery and use the system to give you extra charging slots as you see fit during other times of the day. You can then do all your washing/tumble drying/dishwasher etc at 7p/kWh.
For example, if you say need to charge up from 50%-100%, then don't plug it in overnight. Turn on your 3pin plug at say 7am, select departure time in the Octopus app for 11am, then it'll give you a charge window from 7-11am.
On the other side, if you have a battery that's flat, then around lunchtime plug your car in and select departure time of 4am in the app. It'll charge overnight, but will also likely give you charging sessions throughout the afternoon and evening, further allowing you to use the 7p/kWh rate during your high usage times.
For a further bonus, drop charging speed in the car to say 6 Amps and enjoy even more cheap sessions for all you electric usage needs. This game could land you in trouble with Octopus if you have a large battery EV and are always trying to charge at the cheap rate
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i am risking sounding like a dumbass (nothing new there then
) but if they are in wheel motors wont 4800Nm of torque be significantly more performant than the same potential 4800Nm if through an axel?or am i talking rubbish?.
yep combined .. it's an f=ma application (on a roll ? no it's a coffee break - sorry)
a= 9m/s2 0-60mph 3s
m=1500kg
f= T/(0.3m?)wheel radius
so T = 9*1500*0.3 = 4000NM torque at wheels
e: (hadn't realised polestar 3 looks quite attractive was on tv advertising last night and looks like a hooting break , albeit 2500kg )
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Nice car the CX60 we we're torn between that and the XC60 and went for the latter just because it had a turbo motor for towing when battery is depleted but the Mazda was much better value.
I would re-iterate what everyone else has said, IOG with a wall charger has been a game changer for us, I think the Volvo has similar usable battery to the Mazda (something like 14.9 out of 18.8 in my case) and the electric covers most of our daily use, having a wall charger means that you can also do charges any time of the day and Octopus will give whole house 7p slots, for me this mean my monthly electric unit average comes in at ~10-12p for all use which is nice, some benefit to a slow charging PHEV
I'm sure it won't be like this for ever but I will enjoy it for now.It will be fine on the 10A supply, just means it'll take longer. It terms of time it likely won't be 17.8/2.3 as the battery fills it slows right down past 80 so mine takes 5-5.5 hours on wall box even with a 3.6kw peak charge rate.
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Speaking of charging a ev, mine arrives next Tuesday and for a while I plan to just charge it by 3 pin until a charger is installed, there's a public charger nearby if I need to quickly top it up if we've a long journey. We've Octopus on a 1 year fixed tariff so my plan is to go over to their intelligent go version so I get 6 hours at 7p/kWh
In the future a charging unit would be placed on the detached garage outer wall as it already has power going to it.
In looking at the wiring going to the garage it looks like it is suitable for the load a charger would have, but the consumer unit would need replacing which I could do if required.
Photo below, any thoughts much appreciated:
In the future a charging unit would be placed on the detached garage outer wall as it already has power going to it.
In looking at the wiring going to the garage it looks like it is suitable for the load a charger would have, but the consumer unit would need replacing which I could do if required.
Photo below, any thoughts much appreciated:
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That is potentially suitable but there would be very limited headroom for any other power draw in the garage.Speaking of charging a ev, mine arrives next Tuesday and for a while I plan to just charge it by 3 pin until a charger is installed, there's a public charger nearby if I need to quickly top it up if we've a long journey. We've Octopus on a 1 year fixed tariff so my plan is to go over to their intelligent go version so I get 7 hours at 7p.
In the future a charging unit would be placed on the detached garage outer wall as it already has power going to it.
In looking at the wiring going to the garage it looks like it is suitable for the load a charger would have, but the consumer unit would need replacing which I could do if required.
Photo below, any thoughts much appreciated:
You’ll only have 8A to play with when the car is charging which is probably fine in practice.
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Thanks for your prompt reply, that seems fine as there's nothing going to be powered up at the same time the car is charging.
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That’s on the assumption the black cable feeding it is in fact 6mm or above.
Octopus fitted an all new dedicated metal trip and RCD box as part of my standard install. It’s a 100A main switch with 40A rcbo. The 7p night rate is 23:30-05:30 or whenever you have an allocated charging slot car must be plugged in to activate your slots.
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Thanks, that's good to know they fit a dedicated unit, yeah I've looked at the timings of setting a charge cycle.
With the intelligent option you don’t need to you just plug in and tell it how much charge and when you want it ready by. It will charge at any time to be ready for your set time all charged at 7p per KWH. I plugged in this morning and it’s already charged to %80 done two loads of washing too whilst it was charging……lol
Octopus and other ‘big box’ installers will probably not want to be modifying that existing supply and reconnect your garage circuits.
They’ll just want to run in their own cable from the electrical meter and touch as little of the existing install as possible.
You may be better off engaging a local electrician/installer who will be more flexible with their requirements.