Star Trek : Strange New Worlds

That'll be 46 episodes total of SNW then. DIS got 65.

Pathetic, but probably for the best - I really don't trust these showrunners to not completely overwrite TOS with this series, fewer episodes means fewer chances to screw up everything.
 
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That'll be 46 episodes total of SNW then. DIS got 65.

Pathetic, but probably for the best - I really don't trust these showrunners to not completely overwrite TOS with this series, fewer episodes means fewer chances to screw up everything.
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It is pretty rare for the old format 20+ episodes a season now, at least for sci-fi for several reasons including cost, no need for "syndication" numbers of episodes*, and burn out with the cast and crew. Add in the increased cost per episode these days and the fact that people expect much higher quality sets and effects and you can't churn out an episode a week more or less (you can't get away with things like copying something out of a newspaper or book and using it on your technical display**).

They're IIRC not even overwriting TOS, aren't discovery etc set in a secondary timeline, at least one of which was set up in the first or second season of TOS?



*IIRC you needed something like 120-160 to keep a series in full syndication with daily repeats (enough for 6 months of Mon-Fri episodes before you started repeating), which meant that typically they were shooting long days for 6-9 months without much of a break and towards the end of the season IIRC it would get harder to keep on schedule as the first episode of a season might air with several episodes ready to go but it wasn't uncommon for them to be really pushing it towards the end of the season. These days they tend to film almost everything before the first episode airs.

**Although there are some very funny bits in TNG where apparently the set decorators/effects staff would sneak in jokes about current affairs, other shows, or even just put in text that was intended to try and make a cast member laugh as it scrolled past. There are some youtube videos where they talk to the crew members and do things like zoom in on the HD remasters to read what was put on the screens and consoles etc.
 
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Werewolf said:
It is pretty rare for the old format 20+ episodes a season now, at least for sci-fi for several reasons including cost, no need for "syndication" numbers of episodes*, and burn out with the cast and crew. Add in the increased cost per episode these days and the fact that people expect much higher quality sets and effects and you can't churn out an episode a week more or less (you can't get away with things like copying something out of a newspaper or book and using it on your technical display**).
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Sure. But to finish on a six episode final season? When even DIS got ten (and proceeded to burn those ten episodes on doing TNG's "The Chase" but badly)?

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They're IIRC not even overwriting TOS, aren't discovery etc set in a secondary timeline, at least one of which was set up in the first or second season of TOS?
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Nope. Prime timeline allegedly. Quite why the Enterprise is larger, and a different shape, and a different colour isn't explained. Or why the Gorn are known about before TOS' "Arena". Or why Spock and Chapel have the relationship that they do here that will never, ever even be hinted at having been a thing again in continuity. Or how M'Benga knows how to do Scotty's 'suspended animation in a transporter' trick that even Scotty was figuring out on the fly during the backstory for TNG's "Relics".

Yes, yes. SNW's "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" gave them the 'out' for any and all changes to the established timeline. But every time a showrunner was asked they were adamant that DIS and SNW were in the same timeline continuity as TOS, TNG et al. So, it's overwriting TOS and by extension all of the following series. Plus it's not as if the people making SNW don't want to go further, and actually remake TOS itself.

Meh. Whatever. Trek fandom, in the main, shows absolutely no respect for the original series these days, so why should Trek showrunners? :cry:
 
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well all the retro/costume/theatre stuff looks like pants, started with the musical and now this, clearly have run out of ideas and it looks like its turned into some sort of parody self-depreciating thing, which is sad.

shoulda called it strange new star trek.

I wonder is russell T davis involved ?
 
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tangey said:
well all the retro/costume/theatre stuff looks like pants, started with the musical and now this, clearly have run out of ideas and it looks like its turned into some sort of parody self-depreciating thing, which is sad.

shoulda called it strange new star trek.

I wonder is russell T davis involved ?
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Could be worse, we havent yet reached TOS story levels of characters brains being stolen or the Captain crawling about on all fours pretending to be a pony and making horsey noises or the time that Jack the Ripper possessed Scotty and so on :D
 
Tombstone said:
Could be worse, we havent yet reached TOS story levels of characters brains being stolen or the Captain crawling about on all fours pretending to be a pony and making horsey noises or the time that Jack the Ripper possessed Scotty and so on :D
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Let us not forget Dr Crusher 'being romantic' with a ghost in Season 1 of TNG.
 
tangey said:
well all the retro/costume/theatre stuff looks like pants, started with the musical and now this, clearly have run out of ideas and it looks like its turned into some sort of parody self-depreciating thing, which is sad.

shoulda called it strange new star trek.

I wonder is russell T davis involved ?
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Are you forgetting that TOS had some strange stories and also TNG had a few really bizarre ones, complete with costumes and the like.

There have always been out there stories in Trek.
 
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