I wasn't really commenting on drivability in corners etc. This was more a comment on how the engine responsiveness just felt so odd after getting back into a petrol car.
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I wasn't really commenting on drivability in corners etc. This was more a comment on how the engine responsiveness just felt so odd after getting back into a petrol car.
Not really, the Tesla's were bang average build quality before you even begin to consider anything else, still more tech demo than car, the original e-tron was flawed when it came to efficiency/range and the iPace wasn't a bad car but there are plenty of metrics whereby it might not be considered decent - the range being another obvious point - not bad but not 'decent'.
The EV market in 2018 was absolutely nothing special and saying there were no decent EVs at the time was not 'wrong' by any stretch - there weren't, there was a load of white goods cars, interesting but flawed options or tech demos - and that opinion is definitely not countered by cars that didn't exist when the post was made
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as a fun drive I fully admit my old 350z will be probably the best car I ever own...... but for me Electricity as an energy source is more important than a fun drive. my response about 50-70 in my EV was nothing to do with willywaving about being better than an ICE it was just countering a claim that EVs were more dangerous at overtaking because they are apparently slower than ICE cars at 50-70mph so keep you in the danger zone longer .
I think it is fair to say in the right ICE car any EV is gonna struggle on the engaging drive front.
(arguably the same couple be said about old ICE cars Vs a new one
that said tho. (for different reasons) I do enjoy driving my ipace and my wife's i3)
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Yes that was my problem the ev's I tested didn't have many redeeming features when it came to driving them, or even just to sit in them, I mean how can a M235i be replaced that was my dream retirement car. It was a shame to let it go but circumstances forced the decision. So another bmw was the only way to go really, and one that looked similar.
But I would even go as far as saying my Dyane 6 was 'fun' to drive, to a point until long distances were factored in as it had a 0-60 if you were lucky. It was though strong in personality.
I just liked to see how far I could get the inside rear wheel cocked off the ground. Plus, in snow, with it's thin tyres, it was very good.
Fun is very much a subjective feeling though, what is fun for some is a poor joke with others.
But yes ev's are getting better, to point, but so many are suv's and shaped more like postman pat's van with shockingly weird interiors.
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My Ioniq 5 AWD had its first service at approx 20k yesterday. There was a three Updates complete ICCU SW, VCU SW and the 12v battery was replaced (not faulty but done as a precaution) Tyres are at 6mm for front and 5.5 for the rear, brake wear was negligible. It also had one of those main battery tests done, average battery voltage was 3.81v and after 20k miles it still has 100% usable capacity.
So the octopus charging failed again, it didn't commence last night at the allocated time of 23:30 so I went out and unplugged the cable so it then commenced charging. This morning the car was still charging at around 06:30 and there were two notifications from octopus. One that it couldn't contact the car and then another stating the charge target had not been reached within the time set.
I stopped the charge at that point.
The MyBMW app is set to charge immediately and a 80% charge target, the octopus app is also set to a 80% target with a ready by time of 05:30.
The octopus app is populating with schedules but some of are saying 07:00-08:30, it's now 08:35...
Is this all correct?
Now when I try to bump start a charge the octopus app states it is charging, however it isn't.
Confused as to what I'm doing wrong..
I stopped the charge at that point.
The MyBMW app is set to charge immediately and a 80% charge target, the octopus app is also set to a 80% target with a ready by time of 05:30.
The octopus app is populating with schedules but some of are saying 07:00-08:30, it's now 08:35...
Is this all correct?
Now when I try to bump start a charge the octopus app states it is charging, however it isn't.
Confused as to what I'm doing wrong..
I think you're encountering the reason why so many people are advocates of smart chargers that can control the charging operation rather than trying to control via car APIs - it's notoriously unreliable and a pain in the arse to make it work sometimes, even when everything is set up so that it should work.
Chances are you aren't doing anything 'wrong', just Octopus and the car aren't communicating properly because reasons.
Chances are you aren't doing anything 'wrong', just Octopus and the car aren't communicating properly because reasons.
No other schedules are set within the MyBMW app, just charge immediately and 80% limit.
No issues here using granny charger and Tesla with IOG. On rare occasions I will get notification from octopus app saying something like "couldn't control the car" and yet the charging starts and stops as it should. Been using it for a year that way now and never been charged standard rate or found my car not charged in the morning.
The I part of the tariff vs normal OG is the part I think you might be skipping here. Why are you trying to only charge it between 23:30 and 05:30 when the entire point of Intelligent is that it gives you slots outside of those hours to hit your charging target.
If you are using a 3-pin and you have told IOG that, and you have told it what % you want the car to be at the desired time, then it will work out what other slots it can give you and charge then as well, its even more important if you are only able to deliver 2.1kWh to the car per hour as if you need to fill the pack it would take 1.5 days almost.
Set you target for the real time you want it ready, and what % you want to hit, plug it and let it do its thing, it also means you'll be able to test it today. Just check the BMW to see when the car is charging or your IHD for your smart meter if you have one.
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There are only two options in the charging setup within the MyBMW app, charge immediately or to a time slot. Strangely though I've setup the octopus app again and that setting has now changed to a timed.
However the car started charging again and hasn't stopped when I removed the plug and put it back again.
Just going to leave it alone now to get on with whatever it wants to do, anymore issues and I'll contact octopus again.
How much charge are you actually trying to add to reach 80%?
It might be setting that 7am-8.30am slot for tomorrow morning because it'll have to keep charging beyond your requested 'Ready By' time of 5.30am to achieve 80% - if it can't add all the requested charge by the time you've asked for it, it won't stop at the 'Ready By' time I don't think, it'll keep going until it hits the target % or you unplug it.
The benefit to 'Intelligent' Go being that it should be doing this at smart rates, not daytime rates.
If you've got an 80kWh battery (lets keep the numbers simple!) and you want to charge from 30% to 80%, that's 40kWh it needs to deliver - a 10A charger will do 2.3kW max, so call it 2kW for the sake of easy maths again - that's potentially 20 hours of charging needed to go from 30% to 80%.
If you're adding these sort of percentages, it wouldn't surprise me if it's struggling to schedule enough charge before the Ready By time.
That doesn't explain why it set a schedule of 11.30pm though but didn't actually start charging then, that part just seems like a potential communication failure between IOG and the car.
It might be setting that 7am-8.30am slot for tomorrow morning because it'll have to keep charging beyond your requested 'Ready By' time of 5.30am to achieve 80% - if it can't add all the requested charge by the time you've asked for it, it won't stop at the 'Ready By' time I don't think, it'll keep going until it hits the target % or you unplug it.
The benefit to 'Intelligent' Go being that it should be doing this at smart rates, not daytime rates.
If you've got an 80kWh battery (lets keep the numbers simple!) and you want to charge from 30% to 80%, that's 40kWh it needs to deliver - a 10A charger will do 2.3kW max, so call it 2kW for the sake of easy maths again - that's potentially 20 hours of charging needed to go from 30% to 80%.
If you're adding these sort of percentages, it wouldn't surprise me if it's struggling to schedule enough charge before the Ready By time.
That doesn't explain why it set a schedule of 11.30pm though but didn't actually start charging then, that part just seems like a potential communication failure between IOG and the car.
I can see what you are saying and understand your point, but it was the octopus app that is dictating these schedules, not myself.
Thus a schedule was set by the app to commence charging last night at 23:30, which it didn't.
I've reset it all up again and left it at default settings...
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Well if you want to test it tell it your departure time it 15:00 and you want it at at 100%, totally unachievable if you are at 50% battery (no idea what you are at) then plug it in.
Given that it is a Saturday and the grid is pretty green right (https://grid.iamkate.com/) now you'll get slots immediately and can see if the charging starts as expected.
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Might be wrong but when i've been researching IOG, I thought it was now only possible to set a 'Ready by' time of between 4am and 11am?
Correct