Nvidia RTX 60 series - what is going to happen?

Quartz · 28 Jun 2025 at 12:14

Nvidia have lost the bottom end of the market:

The £315 16 GB RX 9060 XT outperforms the £380 16 GB RTX 5060 Ti, and the £250 Arc B580 isn't that far off the other two.

PaulW · 28 Jun 2025 at 16:57

heatonpkmassive said:
That would be very dishonest of him. What gives you the idea that this could happen?

beats me

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Kirby Wurm · 28 Jun 2025 at 18:38

Quartz said:
Nvidia have lost the bottom end of the market:

The £315 16 GB RX 9060 XT outperforms the £380 16 GB RTX 5060 Ti, and the £250 Arc B580 isn't that far off the other two.

And yet I'm pretty sure the Steam survey will continue to be dominated by the Nvidia cards. The main advantage they have is better upscaling because cards at that level don't have enough grunt for RT, but even then because these are aimed at lower resolutions, upscaling in general doesn't perform so well (below 1440p anyway).

The prices are a **** take, and I don't expect the next gen to improve. With their market dominance, in the extremely unlikely event that AMD retake the performance crown next gen and pull upscaling on par with DLSS Transformer model (and FSR4 was a great first stab), and match RT performance, I still don't see things changing. It would take several generations for of that for notable change, which I just don't see happening any time soon, sadly.

Rusty0611 · 28 Jun 2025 at 19:10

I wouldn’t have looked at or recommended an AMD card for years. Going back maybe 10 years or so. But the 9070 XT is very solid for the money IMO. Hope to see them continue in this direction and hopefully in future, offer something around xx80 performance level as well. Sadly, for xx90 series enjoyers, I think we’re stuck with nvidia as the only option forever.

scubes · 29 Jun 2025 at 05:32

good old days of cards are gone AI is the new killer ..

Quartz · 29 Jun 2025 at 09:40

Rusty0611 said:
o. But the 9070 XT is very solid for the money IMO. Hope to see them continue in this direction and hopefully in future, offer something around xx80 performance level as well.

I think Intel are going to be a better bet for that. I expect the B770 to offer performance near the RTX 4080 - if only they had released it last year.

Simon Belmont · 29 Jun 2025 at 16:05

Nvidia don't care. All they care about is AI.

LostCorpse · 30 Jun 2025 at 10:27

i wasnt sure were to put this, so as its a 6000 card i thought this might be the best location, even it its a pro card

thoughtit interesting they are testing LLM (even if experimentally)

search for blackwell / rtx pro - didnt really show a good fit for it, maybe i just had bad luck for it.

loftie · 30 Jun 2025 at 11:30

Quartz said:
Nvidia have lost the bottom end of the market:

The £315 16 GB RX 9060 XT outperforms the £380 16 GB RTX 5060 Ti, and the £250 Arc B580 isn't that far off the other two.

The 9060XT beats the 5060Ti in 5 out of 25 games, I'm not sure I'd be saying it outperforms it based on that video. They do perform very similarly overall though, but as usual the Nvidia's premium will be explained away because ~~driver, mfg, encoder, cuda, physx~~ Jensen needs a new jacket and we need to support him.

Blackjack Davy · 30 Jun 2025 at 15:05

phinix said:
I'm wondering, after seeing 50 series being a total crap performance wise compared to prev series - what can we expect from next one?

"5090's are flying off the shelves @ £2000 clearly they're far too cheap, lets double it!"
If they're not at least £3000 next gen I'll eat my 7900xtx.

phinix said:
So what? We are looking at the end of PC gaming? Cause soon, in 5-10 years maybe they gonna stop releasing better performance gpus?

Probably. At least they'll trickle out a tiny improvement per gen while steadily increasing prices. This is what monopolies do (remember Intel?)
Steadily downgrade hardware per gen "5080 is really a 5070" etc to save money on silicon whilst using nice cheap software solutions (DLSS et al) to make up the difference. See above.

brostradamus · 30 Jun 2025 at 17:09

nvidias going back to the rtx 40 pricing tiers
rtx 6080 will be priced at 1799
rtx 6090 will look like a good deal at 2199

and amd will be close at the heels with the radeon x080 priced at 1699 (more ram ofcourse and none of that 12vhpwr funny business - is going to be their message to the market)

Personality+ · 30 Jun 2025 at 18:31

Hopefully dual 12x6 for 6090 and if you play at 4K or beyond high fps every new gpu is a nice upgrade (for max settings) native

Otherwise you're buying one for non gaming reasons I guess (major reason I keep one as I'm playing the likes of rematch at the moment

and peak) and you do have to ask yourself if the horsepower is needed (it's not) but then the itch for gta v enhanced/ black myth wukong or cp2077 drops in here and there and you remember why you wanted the 5090 in the first place.

Essential for some parts of my Topaz work flow.

philo-sofa · 30 Jun 2025 at 18:36

tl;dr - IMO should be a decent bump in performance from the new node, we'll get reamed on the pricing though.

phinix · 1 Jul 2025 at 09:30

It will happen again probably, cause people are stupid enough to keep buying xx90 top tier cards.

Hotwired · 1 Jul 2025 at 09:46

phinix said:
It will happen again probably, cause people are stupid enough to keep buying xx90 top tier cards.

What does stupidity have to do with it.

There are a lot of people with a comfortable amount of petty cash who want best shiny.

The fact that 10,000x more people cannot find it comfortable to buy the best shiny is not a downside to the buyers.

Stupidity would be to cause yourself financial problems to buy it but if there's no problems... there's no problems...

cyclonus10 · 1 Jul 2025 at 10:44

The continuing price rise of the top tier cards brings up the prices of the cards below it. Which in itself wouldn't be a problem if the performance of the cards below the top tier warranted said price rises.

BS Dave · 1 Jul 2025 at 12:29

Hotwired said:
What does stupidity have to do with it.

There are a lot of people with a comfortable amount of petty cash who want best shiny.

The fact that 10,000x more people cannot find it comfortable to buy the best shiny is not a downside to the buyers.

Stupidity would be to cause yourself financial problems to buy it but if there's no problems... there's no problems...

I guess the problem comes when only 1/100th of a percent of people can afford the top card, and yet people with that card expect path tracing and all the bells and whistles...If I'm a developer and i'm only catering to a 10,000th of my audience with certain stuff, they can quite frankly go hang (until Nvidia pays me the money to do it)

KillBoY_UK · 1 Jul 2025 at 13:05

Presuming it will be on a new node unlike 5xxx we will prob get a good bump in performance, prices will remain high as I don't see wafer costs going down or fab space at TSMC.

Unless NVidia use a Samsung node again and get a deal which they did with 3xxx

phinix · 1 Jul 2025 at 14:41

Hotwired said:
What does stupidity have to do with it.

There are a lot of people with a comfortable amount of petty cash who want best shiny.

The fact that 10,000x more people cannot find it comfortable to buy the best shiny is not a downside to the buyers.

Stupidity would be to cause yourself financial problems to buy it but if there's no problems... there's no problems...

People buying overpriced cards are only pushing nvidia to raise their prices for all cards, not just top tier, but mid and lower too. It happens every year, every release of new series.

Hotwired · 1 Jul 2025 at 16:21

phinix said:
People buying overpriced cards are only pushing nvidia to raise their prices for all cards, not just top tier, but mid and lower too. It happens every year, every release of new series.

Blame people, blame the competition.

Everyone does what's best for them, prices being what they are is only on Nvidia, no one else.