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AMD Zen 6 rumours
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On a 5800x with a 5080 GPU and I've got the upgrade bug. Question is when? 9800x3d now or hold out for zen 6?
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I went from a 5800X3D to a 9800X3d and the gaming performance uplift is sizeable.
If you have the non-3D variant of the 5800X it is well worth your time.
Hopefully a B850 can take a Zen 6.
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Same here, not in all titles, but games like Darktide and Space Marine 2 saw a very healthy uplift.
Thats a shame, was hoping it would be sooner rather than later
AMD Zen 6 EPYC "Venice" Processor Features Dual-Chip IO Die Configuration
In June 2025, new details emerged about AMD’s upcoming Zen 6-based EPYC processors. The Venice variant is reported to feature a dual IO Die (IOD) setup, a notable change from previous EPYC chips that used a single IOD.
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AMD Zen 6 to primarily use TSMC N2P, N3P for low-end mobile SKUs - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 10000, aka Zen6 with N2P node AMD has allegedly shared information with its partners regarding next-generation CPU architecture nodes. The new series will once again cover server, desktop, and mobile platforms. The leaker, who has a good track record with confidential AMD plans...
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Excellent, this coupled with 12 core ccd's, Zen6 is going to be monstrousAMD Zen 6 to primarily use TSMC N2P, N3P for low-end mobile SKUs - VideoCardz.com
AMD Ryzen 10000, aka Zen6 with N2P node AMD has allegedly shared information with its partners regarding next-generation CPU architecture nodes. The new series will once again cover server, desktop, and mobile platforms. The leaker, who has a good track record with confidential AMD plans...
I will be watching closely to see if and when 2nm class CPUs emerge, but don’t assume these rumours have a basis in fact, without confirmation, e.g they will update the roadmap.
AMD must know they have an opportunity for supremacy over Intel, with the cancellation of Intel’s 20a process (as originally planned for Arrow Lake desktop CPUs). Intel is having to throw everything at their 18a process in an attempt to catch up with the latest TSMC process.
If that too is delayed, I think Intel’s stock price would crash, and they’d be back to firing their CEO and aiming for another reset. But, I think this time they will succeed, 18a is basically a 2nd generation 2nm process.
AMD must know they have an opportunity for supremacy over Intel, with the cancellation of Intel’s 20a process (as originally planned for Arrow Lake desktop CPUs). Intel is having to throw everything at their 18a process in an attempt to catch up with the latest TSMC process.
If that too is delayed, I think Intel’s stock price would crash, and they’d be back to firing their CEO and aiming for another reset. But, I think this time they will succeed, 18a is basically a 2nd generation 2nm process.
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I'm sure it will be tempting for AMD if they can release something that's stable at anything near that speed - only got to be 6.3Ghz to be the highest clocked production processor (currently i9-14900KS has this title @ 6.2Ghz)
I don't understand in this day and age why you'd even buy any Intel CPU?
They majorly lack the cache that AMD has, run far too hot, thermal throttle even on the best of coolers, perform worse in games, often cost more or the same?
What exactly is the benefit over AMD? I'm all for buying whatever works best, but currently, that is AMD, whatever price range you choose.
They majorly lack the cache that AMD has, run far too hot, thermal throttle even on the best of coolers, perform worse in games, often cost more or the same?
What exactly is the benefit over AMD? I'm all for buying whatever works best, but currently, that is AMD, whatever price range you choose.
Because it's Intel.
I think the 245K/265K at current prices offer much better value than AMD's chips at the same price points (for people that do more than game).
Is that based on pricing wise or performance? Or both?
I struggle to see why someone would buy an Intel when they lack the cache of AMD, there are so many options with AMD X3D, and more keep being released, I saw the other day a 7600X3D IIRC? That would be a great CPU if we get it over here.
Extra L3 cache is not a silver bullet, most application gain nothing from it. The 245K/265K offer better price/performance than AMD at that price point, the Intel iGPU is also a lot better for builds that don't include a dGPU. AMD are mostly better for gaming but its not so clear cut for other things.
Rumour is they are already past that, they just think they can get it to 7.
I multithreaded applications yes because they have a bunch of E-Cores, in gaming, no, the Ryzen 9700X is faster than the 265K and £20 cheaper.
The problem Intel have is they don't really have any gaming CPU's that are worth their money, because they do a little better in MT productivity apps they think they are worth more than AMD's CPU's, they aren't....
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More technical details of Zen 6.
They have completely reengineered the memory controller, there are two of them now and 8000 MT/s should be the norm.
The fabric links are also reengineered with much lower latency.
L3 cache has been increased to 48MB (up from 32MB) 3D stacked cache has been increased to 96MB (up from 64MB) making the 10800X3D a total of 144MB (up from 96MB) with the ability to double stack 3D cache bringing the potential of the 10800X3D to 240MB of L3 Cache.
Around 6.4Ghz already achieved on engineering samples with 7Ghz being the official target.
12 cores per CCD, so a maximum of 24 cores, they have HT so 24 and 48 threads.
Socket AM5 drop in compatible.
Engineering samples are in peoples hands, known AMD tweaking software developer 1usmus apparently has one.
They have completely reengineered the memory controller, there are two of them now and 8000 MT/s should be the norm.
The fabric links are also reengineered with much lower latency.
L3 cache has been increased to 48MB (up from 32MB) 3D stacked cache has been increased to 96MB (up from 64MB) making the 10800X3D a total of 144MB (up from 96MB) with the ability to double stack 3D cache bringing the potential of the 10800X3D to 240MB of L3 Cache.
Around 6.4Ghz already achieved on engineering samples with 7Ghz being the official target.
12 cores per CCD, so a maximum of 24 cores, they have HT so 24 and 48 threads.
Socket AM5 drop in compatible.
Engineering samples are in peoples hands, known AMD tweaking software developer 1usmus apparently has one.
In multithreaded applications, 265K is massively faster((Cinebench 23 MC)35700 vs 23120). In gaming most would not notice the difference between 265K/9700X.