Hi, have you found anything on this movement? I have the exact same movement but cant really find anything.I've seen this Tudor which has the marking on the movement 2843-1 yet, if I'm not mistaken, they didn't make this calibre movement?
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My brother has just bought a new Omega Aqua Terra as a retirement present to himself, which reminded me I should get 2 of mine sorted.
I stopped wearing the Speedy around ten years ago when it just packed up (presumably because it was full of moisture?), but now I've taken it out of it's box it's fired up again.
It does however need a full refurb (hands, glass & face need replacing & there's a pusher missing), and the Colt needs a battery and the bezel re-fitting (there's a clip/spring thingy missing).
So they're both off to watch repairs UK who'll hopefully get them both sorted, and then I may start to actually look after them and not wear them for work.
I stopped wearing the Speedy around ten years ago when it just packed up (presumably because it was full of moisture?), but now I've taken it out of it's box it's fired up again.
It does however need a full refurb (hands, glass & face need replacing & there's a pusher missing), and the Colt needs a battery and the bezel re-fitting (there's a clip/spring thingy missing).
So they're both off to watch repairs UK who'll hopefully get them both sorted, and then I may start to actually look after them and not wear them for work.
My brother has just bought a new Omega Aqua Terra as a retirement present to himself, which reminded me I should get 2 of mine sorted.
I stopped wearing the Speedy around ten years ago when it just packed up (presumably because it was full of moisture?), but now I've taken it out of it's box it's fired up again.
It does however need a full refurb (hands, glass & face need replacing & there's a pusher missing), and the Colt needs a battery and the bezel re-fitting (there's a clip/spring thingy missing).
So they're both off to watch repairs UK who'll hopefully get them both sorted, and then I may start to actually look after them and not wear them for work.
I know its a bit late, but I would suggest checking with the ADs if they can do the refurbishments themselves. I find that with Rolex their worksmanship in restoring older watches is top notch, and can imagine at least for Omega it could be the same. Worth checking the price with them at least. Rolex service models well into the 60s / 70s
Watch repairs UK did a great job with my Breitling when I had it refurbed a few years ago and the service was superb, so I'm sticking with them.
Omega (looking at their website) want £825 for a full service and WRUK want £450, so I'd imagine they'll be considerably cheaper to refurb it, although either way it'll be costing nearly as much as it's worth to service and bring it back to it's former glory, but it has sentimental value, so it's worth it to me.
Omega (looking at their website) want £825 for a full service and WRUK want £450, so I'd imagine they'll be considerably cheaper to refurb it, although either way it'll be costing nearly as much as it's worth to service and bring it back to it's former glory, but it has sentimental value, so it's worth it to me.
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Long shot....
A friend has this Penarai and has lost the crown guard, where can you get an offical replacement and roughly how much?
It's only 2 screws to put it back i think so she can do the labour part herself, do they sell spare parts?
(I know the watch has been better days! I removed the serial number in PS)
A friend has this Penarai and has lost the crown guard, where can you get an offical replacement and roughly how much?
It's only 2 screws to put it back i think so she can do the labour part herself, do they sell spare parts?
(I know the watch has been better days! I removed the serial number in PS)
Had a look on ewatchspares but the crown guards and screws were only available for other models. I know with a number of manufacturers they do restrict certain or all parts so you're forced to send the watch back to them or use an approved dealer. Might be worth taking it into a local jewellers to see if it's something they can sort.
eBay has some after market parts but no guarantee they'll fit properly though.
eBay has some after market parts but no guarantee they'll fit properly though.
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I found this after market one..not even sure it fits but it has 1860 in the discription.
CROWN GUARD FOR PAM 001 OP 6834 PANERAI LUMINOR FIRENZE 1860 029 GMT POLISH
The item for sale is a brand new, aftermarket replacement Crown Protecting Guard. It will fit a Panerai Luminor Submersible Firenze 1860 Diver Professional or Pam 001, 00114, OP6538,OP 6502 ,029 Gmt in shiny/polished.Make sure you check the lenght and width before purchase as they varies...
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I found this after market one..not even sure it fits but it has 1860 in the discription.
CROWN GUARD FOR PAM 001 OP 6834 PANERAI LUMINOR FIRENZE 1860 029 GMT POLISH
The item for sale is a brand new, aftermarket replacement Crown Protecting Guard. It will fit a Panerai Luminor Submersible Firenze 1860 Diver Professional or Pam 001, 00114, OP6538,OP 6502 ,029 Gmt in shiny/polished.Make sure you check the lenght and width before purchase as they varies...
You also need to match the op6762 for the model.
Also the bit you blurred out might give an idea if it's a limited edition or at the very least which year it's from according to the above link.
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You also need to match the op6762 for the model.
Also the bit you blurred out might give an idea if it's a limited edition or at the very least which year it's from according to the above link.
It is a Panerai Pan 0090 I am told, and need a mirror finish crown guard. Not sure if that also is the same as polished.
@Raymond Lin I'm not finding too much on google with the specific PAM code and OP code for that particular watch model. Your friend may have to bite the bullet and take it to a jewellers. I'd possible suggest going to an independent rather than one of the big chains in the first instance though to see if you can get a better price for the repair. The parts themselves on the ewatchspares website for similar parts are approximate 60 - 75 quid if you need the screws separately. The local jeweller i use would have charged about £100 for a full service on my Longines watch but because they limited a part that i needed replaced on the watch i had to send it away and it was the standard Longines prices at £300. With Panerai being in that bracket above Longines the starting prices for services are from £490 and up https://www.panerai.com/gb/en/service/customer-service/service-price-list.html but it doesn't say if parts will be on top or inclusive of the price.
Also see if @Skidder or @hughtrimble have any thoughts on Panerai stuff cos if i remember they are either proper watch people or may have more knowledge on the repair side of things.
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Update, she was able to find a local place in HK who can order an official piece and fit for £180. (I hope it’s authentic as he says, it seems very reasonable for a Panerai!)
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I used to know far more, but other things have mostly replaced the watch stuff in my head as I got so fed up with the further limiting of parts to indies, meaning prices on everything went up along with the general price creep of watches overall. I have a soft spot for old PAMs but know nothing of the parts. Honestly though @Raymond Lin that sounds almost too reasonable for that crown guard as it's got the crown lever in there too. It's still a lot of money for a small bit of steel (mirrored is very likely the same as polished, even though they can mean different things) but Richemont always take the piddle.
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1860 is when Panerai was founded in Firenze (Florence), which is why it's on the case back. Therefore not going to help with the model compatibility info unfortunately.I found this after market one..not even sure it fits but it has 1860 in the discription.
CROWN GUARD FOR PAM 001 OP 6834 PANERAI LUMINOR FIRENZE 1860 029 GMT POLISH
The item for sale is a brand new, aftermarket replacement Crown Protecting Guard. It will fit a Panerai Luminor Submersible Firenze 1860 Diver Professional or Pam 001, 00114, OP6538,OP 6502 ,029 Gmt in shiny/polished.Make sure you check the lenght and width before purchase as they varies...
If your friend isn't fussed by the aftermarket part, just get them to measure the distance between the threaded holes in the case and go from there. I can't imagine Panerai changing things like the thread pitch on crown guards on different models, so the hole distance will likely suffice.
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People seemed to like my last little Casio Fix-Up, so I decided to document another one 
I have done a couple of Bluetooth enabled models, and another one came up. It was listed as faulty, with water damage, and a rather vague description saying "not working as it did before". I paid just under £15 all in for in, so took the gamble!
When it arrived:
On the surface, it looks not too bad, but it was very dirty....
On further inspection, it looks like the hands were bent, slightly, there was a fingerprint on the lower screen, the crystal was one of the most dirty I have ever seen.. I found that the watch was MOSTLY working, but no beeping, and the bluetooth was connecting to my phone ok.
So, next step was pulling it apart:
No idea what this guy was doing with this, it's not even a particularly old model?! I decided to give it a little clean in the sink, as I did not notice the o-ring poking out with all the dirt distracting me..
That was a little better, and you can see I noticed the o-ring now... I decided to leave the bracelet cleaning for later!
Lets get inside...
Well, that's wrong... The rubber gasket was backwards, so this potentially explained why the beep was dead. The little spring, and "finger" from the movement backplate need to get through to the beeper, and case-back to work... You can also see some corrosion from the water-ingress over the right of the gasket.
This corrosion was also on the back of the movement, right over the battery clip. This will clean up fine, but the battery clip itself is broken, which although annoying, wont stop it from working.
Here you can see the broken plastic under the clip:
This is a common problem on Casio stuff, people tend to get a little ham-fisted trying to pull it out when changing the battery, the trick is to use a little needle, and lever it over the clip. Sadly, its very hard to fix, but if I ever figure out a decent way to do it, I will be very happy!
Battery tested ok, and just needed a clean up!
Overall look at the back of the movement, sans battery:
Whipping it out to assess the damage:
You can see the bent hands here:
That will not do, so whipped out some tools, poked around. I managed to use a hand pusher and a small flathead jewellery screwdriver to lever the hands back into a working shape that looks good from the front. I tested they no longer rub/clash, and have enough clearance all over:
it's not perfect, but bending these things is risky, they can kink/break/crack really easily, so once they are close enough to work and look ok, I leave it...
Next, I whipped the cover off the case, and wow, the dirty theme continued here:
Little bit of work with q-tips and alcohol (not for me!) and it came up a little better!
Started to chuck it back together, and everything cleaned down with the usual q-tip/alcohol combo again
Re-lubed the o-ring:
Blurry, but in:
Re-fitted the gasket, correctly, this time:
Getting there:
Urgh, time to sort this:
Much better....
Case cover re-fitted:
On the wrist:
Time set, and hands corrected (done using the casio app):
And a dusty night shot (the dust was on the outside!)
It wears nicely, not 100% sure where it will sit in my collection? Perhaps a swapout for the GA-2100 model that I was planning on hydro-modding (filling with oil!)
Not a massive amount of work in this fix. They sell on for about £40ish second-hand, so if I move it on in the future, I should make back my time
I have done a couple of Bluetooth enabled models, and another one came up. It was listed as faulty, with water damage, and a rather vague description saying "not working as it did before". I paid just under £15 all in for in, so took the gamble!
When it arrived:
On the surface, it looks not too bad, but it was very dirty....
On further inspection, it looks like the hands were bent, slightly, there was a fingerprint on the lower screen, the crystal was one of the most dirty I have ever seen.. I found that the watch was MOSTLY working, but no beeping, and the bluetooth was connecting to my phone ok.
So, next step was pulling it apart:
No idea what this guy was doing with this, it's not even a particularly old model?! I decided to give it a little clean in the sink, as I did not notice the o-ring poking out with all the dirt distracting me..
That was a little better, and you can see I noticed the o-ring now... I decided to leave the bracelet cleaning for later!
Lets get inside...
Well, that's wrong... The rubber gasket was backwards, so this potentially explained why the beep was dead. The little spring, and "finger" from the movement backplate need to get through to the beeper, and case-back to work... You can also see some corrosion from the water-ingress over the right of the gasket.
This corrosion was also on the back of the movement, right over the battery clip. This will clean up fine, but the battery clip itself is broken, which although annoying, wont stop it from working.
Here you can see the broken plastic under the clip:
This is a common problem on Casio stuff, people tend to get a little ham-fisted trying to pull it out when changing the battery, the trick is to use a little needle, and lever it over the clip. Sadly, its very hard to fix, but if I ever figure out a decent way to do it, I will be very happy!
Battery tested ok, and just needed a clean up!
Overall look at the back of the movement, sans battery:
Whipping it out to assess the damage:
You can see the bent hands here:
That will not do, so whipped out some tools, poked around. I managed to use a hand pusher and a small flathead jewellery screwdriver to lever the hands back into a working shape that looks good from the front. I tested they no longer rub/clash, and have enough clearance all over:
it's not perfect, but bending these things is risky, they can kink/break/crack really easily, so once they are close enough to work and look ok, I leave it...
Next, I whipped the cover off the case, and wow, the dirty theme continued here:
Little bit of work with q-tips and alcohol (not for me!) and it came up a little better!
Started to chuck it back together, and everything cleaned down with the usual q-tip/alcohol combo again
Re-lubed the o-ring:
Blurry, but in:
Re-fitted the gasket, correctly, this time:
Getting there:
Urgh, time to sort this:
Much better....
Case cover re-fitted:
On the wrist:
Time set, and hands corrected (done using the casio app):
And a dusty night shot (the dust was on the outside!)
It wears nicely, not 100% sure where it will sit in my collection? Perhaps a swapout for the GA-2100 model that I was planning on hydro-modding (filling with oil!)
Not a massive amount of work in this fix. They sell on for about £40ish second-hand, so if I move it on in the future, I should make back my time
Got my Breitling back today from Watch repair uk after they re-fitted the bezel & replaced the battery etc..
I'm still waiting for Omega to quote them for the parts required to sort my Speedmaster, although my wallet is wincing at the very thought.
I'm still waiting for Omega to quote them for the parts required to sort my Speedmaster, although my wallet is wincing at the very thought.
@JonRGV250 interesting about Watch UK. I'm in a similar place.
I have owned three Tag's but been cursed. Two stolen, and the one I have now was bought back in 2008, I rarely wore so its basically as new. The trouble is it no longer works as I had no winder box. I suspect I over wound/shook in my effort to get it working again; breaking the mechanism.
Since then its sat in a box for years (last time I wore and it worked was back in 2009/10). I was wondering whether to take it to an official Tag store, or a third party like Watch UK.
Just out of interest, roughly speaking how much does it cost for repairs via official and using a third party specialist.
I have owned three Tag's but been cursed. Two stolen, and the one I have now was bought back in 2008, I rarely wore so its basically as new. The trouble is it no longer works as I had no winder box. I suspect I over wound/shook in my effort to get it working again; breaking the mechanism.
Since then its sat in a box for years (last time I wore and it worked was back in 2009/10). I was wondering whether to take it to an official Tag store, or a third party like Watch UK.
Just out of interest, roughly speaking how much does it cost for repairs via official and using a third party specialist.
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A TAG of that era, you're not going to have been able to overwind the mainspring. They can break over years of use and sometimes you might get a duff one, but an auto from 2009 is not going to be possible to over wind, it would just slip precisely to prevent over winding. Shaking it that violently so as to break it? Again, that would be pretty odd.
Saying it no longer works because you didn't have a winder, also doesn't make sense. Winders typically wear the internals of a watch more rapidly than not using one because it simulates you wearing it when you're not wearing it.
An indie watchmaker can probably look after your TAG, it's likely an ETA or other readily available movement.
Got a picture?
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