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immy said:
Model Y LR 2022; how bad is the suspension? All i am seeing in reviews is that the suspension is really bad? How would it compare to say like a M3 2020, Golf R or a A4 S line etc?
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It's not that bad compared to the cars you mention.. The Audi A4 Avant S-Line we have in work is terrible in comparison, my Model Y is more refined and easier to live with by a country mile.. The Golf R is s a bit different and I find it a degree harsher at times..

However, it is 'firm' like BMW M-Sport firm with a touch more refinement IME... That however is something that you notice if not used to that kind of setup.. you can now fit the main parts of the Juniper suspension to the earlier cars, but that isn't going to be cheap..
 
squerble said:
Good car. I regularly saw 4+mi/kWh at motorway speeds (60-70), and usually pushing 5+mi/kWh around town
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Just trying to get my head around servicing with EVs, so I know exactly what to expect to see with the car regarding documents.

Do you get a battery health certificate with the car or something?

One dealer, not Hyundai, said they are not serviced but checked over
 
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It should be serviced in line with the manufacturers requirements, particularly where it’s a requirement for maintaining the warranty.

That will be different on every car, likewise if it isn’t due yet, the dealer isn’t going to be doing it.

They might MOT is if that’s due within 6 months they’d usually not bother with that either - it’s all cost at the end of the day and if it isn’t due, it isn’t due.
 
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bainbridge said:
Just trying to get my head around servicing with EVs, so I know exactly what to expect to see with the car regarding documents.

Do you get a battery health certificate with the car or something?

One dealer, not Hyundai, said they are not serviced but checked over
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So I was only leasing so I'm not entirely up on this. There is a servicing schedule in most EVs (including the Kona), it's mostly Tesla that championed the non-servicing.
 
bainbridge said:
Just trying to get my head around servicing with EVs, so I know exactly what to expect to see with the car regarding documents.

Do you get a battery health certificate with the car or something?

One dealer, not Hyundai, said they are not serviced but checked over
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It’s pretty much pollen filter, inspections and software update. On my Polestar that’s 18k miles or two years. Might be other random things in there like brake fluid or coolant change occasionally but generally they’re maintenance free.

I’m expecting the brakes to outlast the car at their current rate of wear.
 
bainbridge said:
Just trying to get my head around servicing with EVs, so I know exactly what to expect to see with the car regarding documents.

Do you get a battery health certificate with the car or something?

One dealer, not Hyundai, said they are not serviced but checked over
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Part of the service is usually a battery health check you might get a print out showing wear. Every manufacturer has its own service guidelines on EV servicing but one thing I have noticed is they are a lot stricter on timings. Missed services or even late can jeopardise the warranty on both the car and battery.

It’s worth finding a car that has documented and up to date service history for peace of mind when buying, It could save you a fortune if something like the battery dies.
 
TESLA model Y on 20" induction alloys 2023....how does it drive? Suspension even worse than on 19"?

Going to drive the 2023 model Y on 19" later tonight....hopefully it aint a deal breaker
 
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It will be slightly firmer due to less tire sidewall but I wouldn’t expect it to be that different given the car is already on the firm side.
 
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I had a call last night from the salesman expecting the Kona EV from their prep centre.

When I queried the service history, it was done at 12 months and 3 years. I queried the service at two years old and if the coolant change had been done at three years and he didn't know.

He asked me to call Hyundai :)

When I explained that I want to ensure the battery warranty is active, he was quite vague and said if I don't like the service history I can cancel the reserve.

So it looks like this one is not a goer for us :(

Lesson learned though, the phrase 'service history' in the advert does not mean full history!

So, I did some research on what the actual service intervals are for these cars, and even owners from new have problems getting clarity from Hyundai on what the minimum service requirements are.

Hyundai keep recommending them to get the car taken into Hyundai every year for inspection, but from what I gather it needs a Hyundai inspection at 2, 4, and 6 years (or 20, 40 or 60k miles) to keep the 8 year battery warranty going.

There are one owner kona's for sale at 14k on 22 plates with full annual Hyundai service history, and service dates quoted, but in premium trim rather than ultimate.

The OH wants one in metallic grey or black, so that narrows it down to 4-5 within 150 miles (excluding Birmingham).

Back to the drawing board!
 
Yes even "full service history" in a main dealer advert means sweet FA as I found when looking for MG4s.

They need servicing every 12 months with 28 days grace and yet this dealer was adamant that the one service that had been done being done nearly 6 months after the 12 month mark didn't affect the car or battery warranty because "It had been bought directly from MG" not sure where else he thought you buy MG cars from :confused:
 
Yeah finding anything with actual service history is like a needle in a haystack, for a laugh have a look on cinch at any of the Korean EV's service history's, maybe 1 in 10 has actually been serviced on time and to schedule.

But then again it is a bit of a mockery as the first few services are nothing more than checking a couple of fluid levels and no actual service work is carried out at all so it's a bit much of them to refuse warranty work later on..

I did contact Hyundai and they told me that being serviced late doesn't automatically void the warranty as a lot will tell you, they told me..

"Please be assured that late or missed servicing does not automatically invalidate your vehicle’s warranty. However, if an issue arises, our warranty team may review whether delayed servicing contributed to the problem. This assessment could influence whether a claim is approved or declined, depending on the part affected."

Still not amazing but it if your door handles fall off you should still be able to get them fixed for example.
 
Hyundai told me if the service was later than 30 days it will void the warranty. That was from the customer service telephone and also the dealer said they are very strict on it. They did say it does not have to be done at Hyundai but confirmation it was done in accordance with the service schedule with approved parts is needed.

The 1st, 3rd, 5th services are optional and not required to maintain warranty.
The 2nd, 4th, 6th services are mandatory and required to maintain warranty.

Personally I wouldn’t risk it that’s why I went approved used and checked the history before agreeing to purchase. I found quite a few nice Ioniqs but most did not have the service history or had missed the 2 year service.

When I enquired when I was looking for an ioniq Hyundai sent me this about warranty.

https://www.hyundai.com/uk/en/owners/owning-a-hyundai/why-hyundai-services/warranty.html

 
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Becoming tempted to get a small EV run around for nursery and station run. Anyone tried one of the new Mini Cooper EVs?
 
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