Today's mass shooting in the US

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It probably is the time though before it happens again, which it will for as long as nothing is done about it.
 
D. Success of the 1997 Acts in removing handgunsfrom circulation
The 1997 Firearms (Amendment)Acts resulted in the largest ever surrender of firearms in theUK. It was completed in a short space of time and without seriousincident or risk to the public. The surrender exercise was a tributeto the professionalism and dedication of the police service andto the cooperation of the overwhelming majority of shooters.

Over 162,000 handguns and 7,000 tonnes of ammunition were handed in.With the exception of a small number retained by the police, HMCustoms and the Forensic Science Service for demonstration andcomparison purposes or donated to suitably authorised museums,all of these have been, or will be, destroyed.
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In the first four months of 2024, nearly 5.5 million firearms were sold, averaging around 1.3 million per month
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It's not as simple as banning them like it was in the UK not when more guns that were ever owned in the UK are being sold in possibly a month

I'm not sure what the solution is to their problem
 
Guns should absolutely not be just on sale where seemingly anyone in the US can get their hands on one. The general high availability is the problem, making it easy for the nutters to get their hands on a gun.

There must be a middle ground where the number of guns can be greatly restricted, and only those who pass a lot of checks and are responsible citizens can manage to obtain one. Increasing the age at which you can own a gun would immediately help a lot too.

It is crazy to allow the general population access to guns so easily as in the US. The volume of guns is the problem, and needs to be curtailed.

Another problem is the type of guns allowed. The handguns that can be easily concealed are ideal for crime, and greater restrictions are needed for them.

It's so sad to see this thread come up so often.
 
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mrk said:
First step, just a stab in the dark, is probably to stop making guns so easily accessible, you can walk into Walmart and buy a gun right after picking up milk and bread.
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Easier said than done to implement in the US but there are 3 steps which have minimal impact on enthusiasts but make a massive difference to mass shootings (and other gun crime using legally owned weapons):

-Robust verification and standing (i.e. criminal record) required to own firearms.
-Civilian owned guns only in straight pull or bolt action (though conversion of existing weapons isn't trivial).
-No [easily] concealable sized firearms / no concealed carry.
 
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Easy solution.

They can keep their guns as per their amendment.

However, they have to be only of a sort typically available as when the amendment was made.

It'd certainly reduce the death toll if they could only carry single shot muskets and pistols.
 
From the Guardian article:

"There have been more than 140 shootings reported in elementary and secondary schools in 2025 thus far, according to the K-12 School Shooting Database."

It's a grave failing of democracy that nothing is getting done about this.
 
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Minusorange said:
It's not as simple as banning them like it was in the UK not when more guns that were ever owned in the UK are being sold in possibly a month

I'm not sure what the solution is to their problem
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The solution is much greater restrictions on guns and far less being sold. The solution is less guns, one way or another.
 
radderfire said:
Guns should absolutely not be just on sale where seemingly anyone in the US can get their hands on one. The general high availability is the problem, making it easy for the nutters to get their hands on a gun.
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You'd need to deal with the many reasons everyone in the USA needs a gun, like the police not actually being there to protect you, the police possibly taking a very long time to respond (America is big), wildlife (handguns are good for killing snakes), racism, crime (burglary is about 1/3 higher over there), and so on.

I don't pretend to have a solution.

adidan said:
However, they have to be only of a sort typically available as when the amendment was made.
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So for First Amendment purposes, people would not be able to use PCs or mobile phones?
 
radderfire said:
From the Guardian article:

"There have been more than 140 shootings reported in elementary and secondary schools in 2025 thus far, according to the K-12 School Shooting Database."

It's a grave failing of democracy that nothing is getting done about this.
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Americans, as a whole, don’t care. They’d rather have guns. It’s part of their identity.
 
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