The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread

So first time for me posting in here (I think) & I'm not even sure if it's the right thread, I just wanna get it out & it doesn't need it's own thread.

Found today really hard a work from an emotional standpoint. First time in 9 years that I've worked today's date, usually book it off but been so busy completely forgot.

Today is the 9th anniversary of my dad's unexpected passing
 
So first time for me posting in here (I think) & I'm not even sure if it's the right thread, I just wanna get it out & it doesn't need it's own thread.

Found today really hard a work from an emotional standpoint. First time in 9 years that I've worked today's date, usually book it off but been so busy completely forgot.

Today is the 9th anniversary of my dad's unexpected passing

What are your favourite memories of him? I hope they bring you joy and I hope work wasn’t bad today for you.
 
What are your favourite memories of him? I hope they bring you joy and I hope work wasn’t bad today for you.

TBH we didn't see eye to eye on many things, the only thing we really connected on was Trek. BBC2 on a Sunday evening (which now ages me lol). Now it's me and my daughter with that same love of Trek, though we get on a lot better than Dad and I.

Work was quiet which probably didn't help, but when it's raining people stay home.
 
I'm not sure. But the end of the road may be coming for my relationship.

Its not easy to find someone to talk to at this stage as most of friends have a tie to the other person. So this is my first airing.

This is a loooong post!

My partner has successfully gotten me to contemplate my actions and behaviours. So a lot of this post comes from me doing that now. Hopefully it's fair and self critical.

...


Things have been up and down for a long while. Probably more so than most relationships. We've always gotten through them but both of us have difficulties living with one another. As an additional piece she is sure she's adhd and autistic and I'm sure I'm adhd. I've read this is a hard match.

This self diagnosis is relatively new for her and me. And say what you like about those labels.. We both certainly show the classic signs. Since she's been self diagnosed things have definitely changed. She spends hours now watching youtubers videos on it. I haven't said anything negative about but I think it's not great being so fixated on it.


To cut a long story short she's been quite distant recently and to be honest I think our lives may well be going in different directions. I try not to speak for her. But my view is she's going through a "what do I want out of life?" stage.
She says she wants to move, that this area is too noisy etc but I think it's more. I'm sure it's more.

Me?
I have many faults. Most of these reflect in forgetfulness and selfishness. Like wanting to do what I want, forgetting things she's told me to not do/to do. I'll often talk to her at 9pm about serious stuff (like tonight) and she'll talk. But it stops her sleeping. And if she doesn't get 8-9 hours sleep she's basically dysfunctional and emotional. I don't know why I always do it at this time. And it's not malicious. But she thinks it is and I'm doing on purpose/being selfish. But it's very hard to get her to talk about important stuff. Tonight is the first time she's said "and don't give me you forget about it". She also says she forgets about things that she repeatedly does that we've talked about. So it's a shame this has come up like it has.


Here are the big factors I think are driving this.

Hobbies and my independence :
Mainly my hobbies have been more outdoorsy and hers have been more indoorsy (by force due to her conditions).
I'd actually say this is a big one. I'm nearly 40 and I feel time is ticking and I want to do my hobbies. I'd love her to come do more stuff but she can't. And there's always a risk if she does she will be in pain. I wish I liked the same things she does, but I really struggle to. Last weekend we did quite a lot. We went on a hike and I kept saying, we can get to the next place but I don't think we should as it's too hard for you. She'd ask me how far to the finish. I said "it's as far as we've walked.. Again from here but the terrain is really far I think we should go back now" .
She wanted to try and it was too much for her. This made everything worse. She said I wasn't clear enough with saying how far it was. I said I tried to say we should go back but you wanted to carry on. This sort of stuff gives me anxiety about doing things like this.
She has her own hobbies book club she goes to, but she's struggling with friends and drama there at the moment feeling excluded etc.
We do stuff together like DnD, board games etc too every week but I don't think this is enough.
I've worked through to manage this. As long as I get some "me" hobbies I'm happy (genuinely happy) to do stuff with her. But I'm not sure it's enough.


Our dog and what he represents.
We've clashed a lot over our dogs care. He has severe hip dysplasia. I'm more "let's go to vet" over a little thing and she is more "it'll be fine". He needs a lot of care and I fuss over him and worry about him much more (too much) while she is the opposite (too little). He's formed a strong bond with me. Getting him was her idea. And I told her we shouldn't, but I think her desire to have a dog was so strong, if I would have said "no" she'd have left there and then. Planning around him (holidays, days out, car journeys) is not easy.

Intamcy.
We are quite different in intamcy. For me it fixes things for her things need to be very ideal for this to occur. I need this, but I'm not even sure she does. It's a big one but I'll skip the details. As you can imagine, this mismatch is difficult.

Mental health.

We both suffer from this. Depression and anxiety runs deep in my family. And it's reared it's head a few times for me recently. And I feel it's now her turn.

We differ in this too. Handling of it, what works. Our responses toward each other. I feel more on top of mine than I have in a while. But mine was bad not long after her mum passed away. It was a really hard time and I felt horrible for what I put her through at that time. Because depression is so selfish. She dealt with that well. I've never seen her so strong. But now it feels like the rolea are reversed. But I'm not sure how to help as she's very closed off. Where as mine was worse but the causes are much simpler. 2 people with mental health issues is not easy to navigate.

Adhd vs autism.
One big clash is I like chaos and unstructured life. But she likes novelty but doesn't like chaos (apparently this is a big thing for autistic adhd) . Ill often change my mind about something internally. And as an autistic person she says this is horrendous for her.

Physical health
My partners physical heath is quite bad. And i mentioned it in hobbies. Closest she's got to a diagnosis is fibromyalgia. Basically she can't to anything much without a downstream impact. It's to the point where she uses voice-to-text at work!
She can only walk a mile or 2 without pain for days.
Sometimes she can't even life a bag of sugar. That's rare but it does happen.
She can't really drive an hour even in our automatic car without pain.
As someone who is quite physical, this is tough. And it leads to me doing basically anything that's physical around house.
Even walking the dog is basically 100 percent me. And his schedule is regimented. It's hard to explain the burden (mental and physical) this puts on me. Even carrying shopping is too much for her.

Small but big things.
We sleep in separate beds as she needs 9+ hours of silence and darkness, I only need 7. And I can't come in later as she'll wake up and not sleep. But I also can't be in bed on my phone for 2 hours, so it's just easier for both of us to sleep separately.

I have to do all the driving because she physically can't, she offers to drive. But my adhd brain forward thinks, knows this will hurt her physically, so I just say "no it's OK I'll do it" when there's probably a bit of annoyance of having to do It all. (13 hours last weekend).

We are both forgetful, and think each other isn't pulling our weight. the house is always messy and we both assume we just have to do stuff we shouldn't. We both feel we have a lot on our plate (but we don't really, we are just both disorganised and slow). Some jobs are shared. Washing clothes.. But some are allocated. Food is hers as she can do it physically, but she hates it and often she doesn't because she can't mentally or physically. Bins, dishwasher, garden, most of the organising (paying bills, taking dog to his appointments) are me.






Future
She says she wants to live in a van, or move. But I'm thinking it's deeper and she's just not happy with anything. Friends and her perpetual struggles with them. Purpose in life. Me. Basically everything.
I know it's not just me.. As she's always struggled with friends and purpose. She's vegan and works in an environmental charity.. Which pretty much shows what "purpose" means to her. Where as I'm more practical. I accept I do harm (ie flying) even though I care about the environment.

I don't want to move if that's not the answer to her issues. But I do want to leave this area. But as where we move would be a compromise. And if she then decides that's not not the solution.. or it is me... We are left in a horrible situation.
We both suggested trying a van. But the rate things are going I don't even know if that's going to happen as this is progressing fast.

Its my 40th very very soon and it's going to be grim. Not how I pictured it!

So yeah.. To me it feels like the beginning of the end. We've had really difficult spells before. But gotten through them. This does feel different. There's a coldness there that has never been there before.


I don't even know what to think. I absolutely do love her. There's no one else or anything like that. But we've struggled for so long. Particularly since our dog starting having issues. Right now I'm in self preservation mode. I'm sad but also trying to distract myself (ie this post) in case I facilitate it by pushing "arw you OK?" . So I'm trying to make my mind think of practical things.


So yeah. That's my dump at 2300! Thanks for trawling through it!
 
Last edited:
I was going to do a step by step reply to each of the many points of difference you both share but I think the short and obvious answer is that you're essentially incompatible and neither of you sound very happy, or even happy at all. Wanting and needing different things is part and parcel of life but it should be wrapped up in the bigger picture of both wanting to overall be together either despite of or because of those differences. If you can re-align some of those differences, enough to make the overall "you" better and healthier and it is worth saving then that's a possibility. The other possibility is the one you nailed in your second sentence which sucks, champ, but could be better in the longer term.
 
I was going to do a step by step reply to each of the many points of difference you both share but I think the short and obvious answer is that you're essentially incompatible and neither of you sound very happy, or even happy at all. Wanting and needing different things is part and parcel of life but it should be wrapped up in the bigger picture of both wanting to overall be together either despite of or because of those differences. If you can re-align some of those differences, enough to make the overall "you" better and healthier and it is worth saving then that's a possibility. The other possibility is the one you nailed in your second sentence which sucks, champ, but could be better in the longer term.
Its quite possible especially as it seems the differences have grown over time.
There have been some very good times in the past year or so. But also some bad ones. She's made me evaluate myself, calling out where I'm not fair. And a big change for me has been accepting it. And trying to change if I agree but it's slow with me and it takes a while to embed in my head.

Its been a big part of personal development for me. But fighting instincts is hard long term.

Like you say. Maybe we are just incompatible.

Crazy brain stuff right now I tell you.
 
Life is too short, the past few years has taught us that, don’t live miserably for fear of the ‘what if we can still make it work’.

It’s great that you’re prioritising the health of the dog, keep doing that.

Also keep enjoying your hobbies, try and take a bit of pride in your health and surroundings (ie tidying up), small steps, one thing at a time, it’ll give you a little lift.

Don’t beat yourself up about being a night owl, many owls and morning people live together without issue(speaking from experience). It just sounds like there’s current compatibility problems.

It’s also not overly unusual for people(looking at the ladies) to need plenty of sleep.

You’ve got adhd so you’ll do exactly what you want and what’s in your head but if I can give only one bit of advice it’s don’t live in a miserable situation(you’ll know this yourself deep down), a small blip is fine but being unhappy for a long time isn’t good for anyone, the choices are tough but life can be much better. It’s sad to hear of people being in unhappy situations. Most of us have been there to varying degrees at some stage.

I dont normally reply to these threads but your post caught my eye tonight.

Good luck with whatever happens
 
We are both forgetful, and think each other isn't pulling our weight. the house is always messy and we both assume we just have to do stuff we shouldn't. We both feel we have a lot on our plate (but we don't really, we are just both disorganised and slow). Some jobs are shared. Washing clothes.. But some are allocated. Food is hers as she can do it physically, but she hates it and often she doesn't because she can't mentally or physically. Bins, dishwasher, garden, most of the organising (paying bills, taking dog to his appointments) are me.
This is incredibly relatable.
Adhd vs autism.
One big clash is I like chaos and unstructured life. But she likes novelty but doesn't like chaos (apparently this is a big thing for autistic adhd) . Ill often change my mind about something internally. And as an autistic person she says this is horrendous for her.
As is this. At the moment we've been treating home life as if I am autistic for a year or so, and it has helped a lot. I was diagnosed with ADHD around 2021 also. I hadn't seen it as this - need novelty, but also enjoy predictability ergo don't like chaos. My partner has had a strong need for predictability before when she's had periods of very poor mental health (anxiety, panic attacks, depression). There was a point that suggesting we go to the supermarket would trigger a panic attack if not planned on a prior day.

Not sure what more to say really. It sounds like you two have some real differences and I know this has probably been coming a long time :(

That said, we can choose how we carry ourselves in these moments. If you love and respect someone you can treat them with kindness even while you leave. That's my aim, to always treat my partner with respect even if it's the end/after the end. And I have spent a lot of time wondering over the years, although we're in a good place now.
 
Last edited:
Life is too short, the past few years has taught us that, don’t live miserably for fear of the ‘what if we can still make it work’.

It’s great that you’re prioritising the health of the dog, keep doing that.

Also keep enjoying your hobbies, try and take a bit of pride in your health and surroundings (ie tidying up), small steps, one thing at a time, it’ll give you a little lift.

Don’t beat yourself up about being a night owl, many owls and morning people live together without issue(speaking from experience). It just sounds like there’s current compatibility problems.

It’s also not overly unusual for people(looking at the ladies) to need plenty of sleep.

You’ve got adhd so you’ll do exactly what you want and what’s in your head but if I can give only one bit of advice it’s don’t live in a miserable situation(you’ll know this yourself deep down), a small blip is fine but being unhappy for a long time isn’t good for anyone, the choices are tough but life can be much better. It’s sad to hear of people being in unhappy situations. Most of us have been there to varying degrees at some stage.

I dont normally reply to these threads but your post caught my eye tonight.

Good luck with whatever happens

Nice reply thanks.
Yeah it's a tough one.
And I know from past I can't let myself slip into depression/anxiety. But it will be hard.

I know whatever happens I've tried. And there's a lot of good things I can take. I've learnt how to balance satisfying my mind (ie going out on my bike) and as long as I've done this recently, I've gotten better at enjoying doing something more her thing. It was very sad what happened on that last together hike. I really tried to say "I think we should go back" without thinking for her "we must go back you can't do it" as she's told me not to do that.
She's taught me how to look inwards and think about if I'm at fault.. And recognise that rather than me saying "I'm sorry" to pacify things.

I'm determined to not come out of this situation (which ever way it goes) with hate or resentment. Rather to try and see the good stuff.

Maybe even thinking like the above is a sign. I dunno. I have a chaotic mind in chaos at the moment!
 
This is incredibly relatable.

As is this. At the moment we've been treating home life as if I am autistic for a year or so, and it has helped a lot. I was diagnosed with ADHD around 2021 also. I hadn't seen it as this - need novelty, but also enjoy predictability ergo don't like chaos. My partner has had a strong need for predictability before when she's had periods of very poor mental health (anxiety, panic attacks, depression). There was a point that suggesting we go to the supermarket would trigger a panic attack if not planned on a prior day.

Not sure what more to say really. It sounds like you two have some real differences and I know this has probably been coming a long time :(

That said, we can choose how we carry ourselves in these moments. If you love and respect someone you can treat them with kindness even while you leave. That's my aim, to always treat my partner with respect even if it's the end/after the end. And I have spent a lot of time wondering over the years, although we're in a good place now.

My partner recently described it as two opposing sides (novelty often = chaos) but also needing that routine.
Where as I will decide "it's a nice day to day.. I want to go on my bike". And unfortunately I like that. As in I enjoy the lack of structure.

If it does come it has been a long time coming. And it will show we couldn't get over some differences.

I'm not sure what the very biggest issue is. Maybe it's just a lot of small things pushing us apart and a lot of small things pulling us together.

Maybe that's why it's been a roller coaster? Theres always been difficulties. But we've always wanted to be together?


I'll update the thread with any massive news. And try to keep my head in check.

(I've actually just thought that for me keeping my head in check has probably added to our difficulties. As for me that's independence and doing my hobbies.. Ones which she can't do etc)
 
Last edited:
I'm not sure what the very biggest issue is. Maybe it's just a lot of small things pushing us apart and a lot of small things pulling us together.

Maybe that's why it's been a roller coaster? Theres always been difficulties. But we've always wanted to be together?
This is how we were for 10 years - we loved each other but the relationship/life together was always hard. We got to a point where basically we said "Am I happy today, and do we want to do this today? And do we want to do this tomorrow?". The reality that we might not last forever was staring us in the face regularly.

It was always, at best, a balance of many small and large negatives, with many small and large positives, where the net result was "I want to carry on today". I spent a lot of time considering what I'd do long term, how I would go about rebuilding my life, etc.

When we stopped house sharing and moved into our own place there was a big shift. All the negatives and differences are still there but it's much less intensely loaded. The focus on "This is great despite all the very real differences/negatives" has become more prominent. It's not without its challenges. Much like you, we have a split of jobs and I do the majority of cleaning, housewornk and admin. I'm ok with this but I wish she would at least try to make less mess for me to clean up. I'm messy and lazy but I like to not actively make a mess for myself e.g. I don't splash toothpaste around the sink or spill food. So yeah, daily frustrations and differences I would like to improve on. But they don't outweigh the desire to stay together.
 
(I've actually just thought that for me keeping my head in check has probably added to our difficulties. As for me that's independence and doing my hobbies.. Ones which she can't do etc)

Clarified your difficulties rather than added to them. It's an important difference.

e: and to add to what shifty said above, life is short and of course that is a redundant statement and doesn't make anything any easier at all but as with most cliches, it is still true. My biggest regrets in life are that I didn't do something about an issue that was causing me problems and my inaction ("it'll get better", "it's too difficult", "I can't ...") made the problem significantly worse because you can do a lot things in life but you cannot get back time lost. It's gone and it would be simplistic to suggest that all of our time should be great regardless of circumstance but it's fair to respect your own time and know when to move on from a situation.
 
Last edited:
This is how we were for 10 years - we loved each other but the relationship/life together was always hard. We got to a point where basically we said "Am I happy today, and do we want to do this today? And do we want to do this tomorrow?". The reality that we might not last forever was staring us in the face regularly.

It was always, at best, a balance of many small and large negatives, with many small and large positives, where the net result was "I want to carry on today". I spent a lot of time considering what I'd do long term, how I would go about rebuilding my life, etc.

When we stopped house sharing and moved into our own place there was a big shift. All the negatives and differences are still there but it's much less intensely loaded. The focus on "This is great despite all the very real differences/negatives" has become more prominent. It's not without its challenges. Much like you, we have a split of jobs and I do the majority of cleaning, housewornk and admin. I'm ok with this but I wish she would at least try to make less mess for me to clean up. I'm messy and lazy but I like to not actively make a mess for myself e.g. I don't splash toothpaste around the sink or spill food. So yeah, daily frustrations and differences I would like to improve on. But they don't outweigh the desire to stay together.

Incredibly similar.
And we to I think have flirted with on/off over the years.

I've been close wanting to go at times and maybe she has too.
But we've always talked, cried and said we both want to stay together.

We are both messy and it annoys us both. I will always have to pick her hair out of the shower. Even though I've said "can you do this".. I will always leave my clothes on the bathroom floor and pick them up later. Sometimes much later.

These back and forths add up


I'd say this is probably the second or third time in nearly 10 years I've thought... This might be it. But there is something that feels different this time. I wonder if she wants a full reset. Maybe the dog + me + this recent bust up with a friend circle has tipped it.


As I said before, I have genuinely tried, especially recently. But it's been slow. Years slow. What will be will be. Life has taught me that. As long as I can look myself in the mirror and say "I've tried" I think that will be enough for me to not regret. I'll be sad, I'll wonder what if... But if one person is really done.. You can't force it.

I've certainly gotten more realistic as I've gotten older. Mental health... Such a *****. Half of my mental protection is counter to a smooth relationship!
 
@413x Sounds like you need a release from these emotions - which doesn’t necessarily mean canning the relationship.

Talk with her about it, see what happens, be dynamic. If you find yourself in one of those ‘moment of truth’ situations and you feel your body and mind lurching towards ‘no’ then that’s the outcome. Or, you might both feel better about it and rediscover fondness.

If it’s brittle to the point that it can’t survive a conversation on these things, then there you go. You’ve got to risk the relationship to find out if it’s worth saving (and, if applicable, save it).
 
I'm not sure. But the end of the road may be coming for my relationship.

Its not easy to find someone to talk to at this stage as most of friends have a tie to the other person. So this is my first airing.

This is a loooong post!

My partner has successfully gotten me to contemplate my actions and behaviours. So a lot of this post comes from me doing that now. Hopefully it's fair and self critical.

...


Things have been up and down for a long while. Probably more so than most relationships. We've always gotten through them but both of us have difficulties living with one another. As an additional piece she is sure she's adhd and autistic and I'm sure I'm adhd. I've read this is a hard match.

This self diagnosis is relatively new for her and me. And say what you like about those labels.. We both certainly show the classic signs. Since she's been self diagnosed things have definitely changed. She spends hours now watching youtubers videos on it. I haven't said anything negative about but I think it's not great being so fixated on it.


To cut a long story short she's been quite distant recently and to be honest I think our lives may well be going in different directions. I try not to speak for her. But my view is she's going through a "what do I want out of life?" stage.
She says she wants to move, that this area is too noisy etc but I think it's more. I'm sure it's more.

Me?
I have many faults. Most of these reflect in forgetfulness and selfishness. Like wanting to do what I want, forgetting things she's told me to not do/to do. I'll often talk to her at 9pm about serious stuff (like tonight) and she'll talk. But it stops her sleeping. And if she doesn't get 8-9 hours sleep she's basically dysfunctional and emotional. I don't know why I always do it at this time. And it's not malicious. But she thinks it is and I'm doing on purpose/being selfish. But it's very hard to get her to talk about important stuff. Tonight is the first time she's said "and don't give me you forget about it". She also says she forgets about things that she repeatedly does that we've talked about. So it's a shame this has come up like it has.


Here are the big factors I think are driving this.

Hobbies and my independence :
Mainly my hobbies have been more outdoorsy and hers have been more indoorsy (by force due to her conditions).
I'd actually say this is a big one. I'm nearly 40 and I feel time is ticking and I want to do my hobbies. I'd love her to come do more stuff but she can't. And there's always a risk if she does she will be in pain. I wish I liked the same things she does, but I really struggle to. Last weekend we did quite a lot. We went on a hike and I kept saying, we can get to the next place but I don't think we should as it's too hard for you. She'd ask me how far to the finish. I said "it's as far as we've walked.. Again from here but the terrain is really far I think we should go back now" .
She wanted to try and it was too much for her. This made everything worse. She said I wasn't clear enough with saying how far it was. I said I tried to say we should go back but you wanted to carry on. This sort of stuff gives me anxiety about doing things like this.
She has her own hobbies book club she goes to, but she's struggling with friends and drama there at the moment feeling excluded etc.
We do stuff together like DnD, board games etc too every week but I don't think this is enough.
I've worked through to manage this. As long as I get some "me" hobbies I'm happy (genuinely happy) to do stuff with her. But I'm not sure it's enough.


Our dog and what he represents.
We've clashed a lot over our dogs care. He has severe hip dysplasia. I'm more "let's go to vet" over a little thing and she is more "it'll be fine". He needs a lot of care and I fuss over him and worry about him much more (too much) while she is the opposite (too little). He's formed a strong bond with me. Getting him was her idea. And I told her we shouldn't, but I think her desire to have a dog was so strong, if I would have said "no" she'd have left there and then. Planning around him (holidays, days out, car journeys) is not easy.

Intamcy.
We are quite different in intamcy. For me it fixes things for her things need to be very ideal for this to occur. I need this, but I'm not even sure she does. It's a big one but I'll skip the details. As you can imagine, this mismatch is difficult.

Mental health.

We both suffer from this. Depression and anxiety runs deep in my family. And it's reared it's head a few times for me recently. And I feel it's now her turn.

We differ in this too. Handling of it, what works. Our responses toward each other. I feel more on top of mine than I have in a while. But mine was bad not long after her mum passed away. It was a really hard time and I felt horrible for what I put her through at that time. Because depression is so selfish. She dealt with that well. I've never seen her so strong. But now it feels like the rolea are reversed. But I'm not sure how to help as she's very closed off. Where as mine was worse but the causes are much simpler. 2 people with mental health issues is not easy to navigate.

Adhd vs autism.
One big clash is I like chaos and unstructured life. But she likes novelty but doesn't like chaos (apparently this is a big thing for autistic adhd) . Ill often change my mind about something internally. And as an autistic person she says this is horrendous for her.

Physical health
My partners physical heath is quite bad. And i mentioned it in hobbies. Closest she's got to a diagnosis is fibromyalgia. Basically she can't to anything much without a downstream impact. It's to the point where she uses voice-to-text at work!
She can only walk a mile or 2 without pain for days.
Sometimes she can't even life a bag of sugar. That's rare but it does happen.
She can't really drive an hour even in our automatic car without pain.
As someone who is quite physical, this is tough. And it leads to me doing basically anything that's physical around house.
Even walking the dog is basically 100 percent me. And his schedule is regimented. It's hard to explain the burden (mental and physical) this puts on me. Even carrying shopping is too much for her.

Small but big things.
We sleep in separate beds as she needs 9+ hours of silence and darkness, I only need 7. And I can't come in later as she'll wake up and not sleep. But I also can't be in bed on my phone for 2 hours, so it's just easier for both of us to sleep separately.

I have to do all the driving because she physically can't, she offers to drive. But my adhd brain forward thinks, knows this will hurt her physically, so I just say "no it's OK I'll do it" when there's probably a bit of annoyance of having to do It all. (13 hours last weekend).

We are both forgetful, and think each other isn't pulling our weight. the house is always messy and we both assume we just have to do stuff we shouldn't. We both feel we have a lot on our plate (but we don't really, we are just both disorganised and slow). Some jobs are shared. Washing clothes.. But some are allocated. Food is hers as she can do it physically, but she hates it and often she doesn't because she can't mentally or physically. Bins, dishwasher, garden, most of the organising (paying bills, taking dog to his appointments) are me.






Future
She says she wants to live in a van, or move. But I'm thinking it's deeper and she's just not happy with anything. Friends and her perpetual struggles with them. Purpose in life. Me. Basically everything.
I know it's not just me.. As she's always struggled with friends and purpose. She's vegan and works in an environmental charity.. Which pretty much shows what "purpose" means to her. Where as I'm more practical. I accept I do harm (ie flying) even though I care about the environment.

I don't want to move if that's not the answer to her issues. But I do want to leave this area. But as where we move would be a compromise. And if she then decides that's not not the solution.. or it is me... We are left in a horrible situation.
We both suggested trying a van. But the rate things are going I don't even know if that's going to happen as this is progressing fast.

Its my 40th very very soon and it's going to be grim. Not how I pictured it!

So yeah.. To me it feels like the beginning of the end. We've had really difficult spells before. But gotten through them. This does feel different. There's a coldness there that has never been there before.


I don't even know what to think. I absolutely do love her. There's no one else or anything like that. But we've struggled for so long. Particularly since our dog starting having issues. Right now I'm in self preservation mode. I'm sad but also trying to distract myself (ie this post) in case I facilitate it by pushing "arw you OK?" . So I'm trying to make my mind think of practical things.


So yeah. That's my dump at 2300! Thanks for trawling through it!

Relationships need fun, yes they have their ups and downs, but if there is no fun it's just existing for the sake of it.

Me and my wife have been up and down for a few years now, since having a child really

She suffers from anxiety and can be quite depressive, she's also very needy emotionally. Shes the organiser of the family. She's insistent I've ADD, I struggle to regulate emotions, I'm restless, struggle to concentrate, forgetful, poor time keeping. She may have a point, I've done many online tests all with the same results, but can't get to speak to a professional about it.

Anyway, we started drifting apart, we would get so worked up about each other, but we would always have days where we would have fun and we would remember why we were with each other in the first place.

Recently after a huge outburst by myself because a pizza went wrong, I blew up no real reason to it I was just an absolute twit for a really very minor reason. I suddenly had an appifany and felt like I had an external view of myself.

For the first time in along time I was willing to sit down and talk about feelings, it's a really stressful thing for me to do, I don't do emotions, but I done it and we started changing ourselves, we are more patient with each other, we appreciate each other more, I'm putting a lot of work in on myself trying to change how I approach things, she's changed how she interacts with me after looking online for help with add and it's made a world of difference. Likewise with her anxiety I've taken a different approach to things more in supporting her with her anxieties rather than prove her reasons are unfounded, she knows most if them make no sense, but she just needs support not to be made to feel like she's mental.

We do like a lot of the same things, but also have different interests, but we like spending time with each other

However if we didn't ultimately enjoy each other with those snippets of fun, we'd have to call it a day. With kids and mortgage I've no idea how it would work out, but we'd have had to do it, our un happiness was hurting our boy, I can't imagine how it would affect him if our relationship was like you've described yours.

We've now done 3 months of re-discovering each other, and it's been amazing, there's still times I'm an idiot, and she's unreasonable, but we are happy and understand each other.
 
Alex that left me with a mental image which is a prediction of the future. You have split up and you moved. You met a new girl who is outdoorsy, she is a much better personality match for you. You are both happy.

With that in mind, it's not actually that many steps to take to achieve that situation if you set your sights on it. You could have it all done in a year or so.
 
Alex that left me with a mental image which is a prediction of the future. You have split up and you moved. You met a new girl who is outdoorsy, she is a much better personality match for you. You are both happy.

With that in mind, it's not actually that many steps to take to achieve that situation if you set your sights on it. You could have it all done in a year or so.

If this does go that way I certainly won't be looking for a new relationship for a long time! I actually have even started to question if I should be in a relationship? Everyone is going to have to give up their active hobbies at some point. What if I find someone who gets sick? Will I not be able to cope?

Or is this not fair on me or not? Been thinking about that over night. Didn't get much sleep as you can imagine.
 
Relationships need fun, yes they have their ups and downs, but if there is no fun it's just existing for the sake of it.

Me and my wife have been up and down for a few years now, since having a child really

She suffers from anxiety and can be quite depressive, she's also very needy emotionally. Shes the organiser of the family. She's insistent I've ADD, I struggle to regulate emotions, I'm restless, struggle to concentrate, forgetful, poor time keeping. She may have a point, I've done many online tests all with the same results, but can't get to speak to a professional about it.

Anyway, we started drifting apart, we would get so worked up about each other, but we would always have days where we would have fun and we would remember why we were with each other in the first place.

Recently after a huge outburst by myself because a pizza went wrong, I blew up no real reason to it I was just an absolute twit for a really very minor reason. I suddenly had an appifany and felt like I had an external view of myself.

For the first time in along time I was willing to sit down and talk about feelings, it's a really stressful thing for me to do, I don't do emotions, but I done it and we started changing ourselves, we are more patient with each other, we appreciate each other more, I'm putting a lot of work in on myself trying to change how I approach things, she's changed how she interacts with me after looking online for help with add and it's made a world of difference. Likewise with her anxiety I've taken a different approach to things more in supporting her with her anxieties rather than prove her reasons are unfounded, she knows most if them make no sense, but she just needs support not to be made to feel like she's mental.

We do like a lot of the same things, but also have different interests, but we like spending time with each other

However if we didn't ultimately enjoy each other with those snippets of fun, we'd have to call it a day. With kids and mortgage I've no idea how it would work out, but we'd have had to do it, our un happiness was hurting our boy, I can't imagine how it would affect him if our relationship was like you've described yours.

We've now done 3 months of re-discovering each other, and it's been amazing, there's still times I'm an idiot, and she's unreasonable, but we are happy and understand each other.

As I'm bad at remembering over time spans I can't remember when things took a dive. Last night she said she's felt "wrong" and not "herself" for a while. This could be from her mum passing, from me, or the stress of our dogs care. Probably all of the above.
I think without our dog things would have been better. It's been like having kids.. But lite because he's sick.

I've put too much energy into looking after him and not our relationship. Running him to physio. The cost of it. Worrying if he's OK.
He's got allergies, sensitive stomach and hip dysplasia. We've both sacrificed a lot for him.

Its obviously not his fault. And if it's meant to be it's meant to be and his problems wouldn't grant caused this. But with our mental health's, her physical health, his health and care I guess it's all too much.

My memory is a big one and slipping back into standard me. Kind of takes her getting really angry/upset for things to sink in for me. I think I'm improving. But with hers and my issues. It might just be too much.

As above, didn't get much sleep last night. I expect much worse for her. Going to be a rough weekend.
 
Last edited:
Tough read, there seems to be a lot of take and not enough give from your partner, although she did try when she accompanied you on the hike. However, it sounds like you are opposites of each other. My wife and i are similar, but we manage it that she has her own hobbies and i have mine, so i don't mind if she is out doing something she enjoys and likewise.

You seem to be an emotional crutch to her, she has her support, but what do you have? This sounds draining and leading to resentment.

Considered therapy? Failing that, will she ever get better or are you resigning the rest of your life to unhappiness?
 
Last edited:
If this does go that way I certainly won't be looking for a new relationship for a long time! I actually have even started to question if I should be in a relationship?
Ok, nothing says you have to find new girl if you aren't that bothered. I don't bother dating and it simplifies life for sure. Imagine your own version of the mental image and see what steps it would take to achieve it.
 
Back
Top Bottom