The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread

Have you tried anything for the forgetfulness ?

Anything I have to remember, like picking up kid when wife's away, or putting the garden bin out, I set a reminder on Alexa. Often several so I don't forget. We even have regular reminders to put the bin out, as we forgot to do it several times. It works for us.
So I have tactics I employ.
I have little galaxy tags on my keys that I can buzz if I misplace them. (I will leave them anywhere).
I generally don't forget important things.. Like dates. I may forget the time. I try and put them in my calendar. But I will often ring on the day... "was my appointment at 10am?..yes" ..I usually remember but doubt the memory!
I nearly always remember bin day unless it's been a stressful week.

Its the soft stuff that's harder. Remembering to not ask her things. Remembering not to talk to her about emotive stuff before bed.
I've started writing these things down on my phones Lock screen on the contract information step. If I see again and again "don't talk to gf before bed" eventually it will go in.

But we have talked about the mental load this places on me. We've talked about it directly.

I've said "this is really hard you know, I have to run through in my head a list of checks to make sure I'm going to say the right thing". And as you can imagine, important talks are often emotional and running through a list of do/don't is hard.

This is probably a big one. So thanks for flagging it. It's come up again and again. And probably demonstrates our "normal" behaviours conflict.

When conversations go bad it will usually end in me getting upset and her having a literal melt down. She says I make myself the victim. But I try to say "look this is not your fault or mine, but I'm also struggling. We are both struggling together. These are both our issues." I think she sees this as making myself the victim?

I really try and make it about us. And how we can navigate it. It's a shame someone external can't basically watch one and say" Alex you are being selfish" or "gf, you are being unreasonable". But end of the day I guess it's another example of clashing in our natural states.
 
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Do you honestly think it will be better in 1 year? 5 years? 10 years? If yes - can you wait?
Do you honestly think it will get worse in those time frames?

I don't want to persuade you either way, it's a really important decision not to be taken lightly. But you're not married (no spiritual vows, no legal binding, no vows in front of the people that are important to you both that you'll be together forever), you don't have kids. The only thing binding you together other than each other is the dog, and if you're doing the lions share of the work then it won't matter either way. Considering a lot of other couples your age, a break would actually be 'simpler' because you have less things binding you together.
 
The key thing which stood out to me here is you both have mental health issues, which haven't been professionally addressed. That's the source if your relationship problems.

I always say, if you have mental health issues, autistic, Adhd, depression etc. You should not be in a relationship with anyone until you get those problem professional taken care of by doctors. None of this self diagnosed BS by watching stuff on social media.

Honestly, neither of you are fit to be in any relationship right now. Not with each other or anyone else until you get some underlying issues addressed.

Staying with each other wont fix those problems.

You are at a point right now, you have more life behind you then ahead (Im 41 myself) Its time for critical thinking about your own future.

Ask yourself this, "Will this get worse or stay the same" Can you deal with this going into your 50's, 60's etc? Because it wont get any better from this point onwards if you don't make big changes right now.

All this stress and worry will only lead you to an early grave and its not worth it.
 
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Do you honestly think it will be better in 1 year? 5 years? 10 years? If yes - can you wait?
Do you honestly think it will get worse in those time frames?

I don't want to persuade you either way, it's a really important decision not to be taken lightly. But you're not married (no spiritual vows, no legal binding, no vows in front of the people that are important to you both that you'll be together forever), you don't have kids. The only thing binding you together other than each other is the dog, and if you're doing the lions share of the work then it won't matter either way. Considering a lot of other couples your age, a break would actually be 'simpler' because you have less things binding you together.

Its hard to know. We've said that we both want it to work. But the problems have come up again and again. So it's not like we haven't given it a good go.



Yes. The process wouldn't be technically difficult.

The house would be sold, we are tenants in common. So our shares are explicit here. And we both want to move.
She could, if she wanted, use the cash for a van. But she wouldn't have much left over as I think i have 80% of 130k equity and she has 20. But that's up to her.

The selling/discarding of all the **** we have would be a chore. But it's something we also both want to do. And need to really anyway.

The dog would be difficult. I know she wouldn't want him. And I know itll be hard looking after him. But like said, I'd never abandon him. I genuinely don't know what would happen if we both didn't want him. Would she take him out of guilt? Poor boy. He's a lovely dog.

It would be a slow move getting it all done. But if she wanted she could go live at her dad's house no issue.


It would be amicable I think as we don't hate each other. There's been no cheating. She'd probably just let me handle it all.



So technically it wouldn't be as hard as others have.
 
The key thing which stood out to me here is you both have mental health issues, which haven't been professionally addressed. That's the source if your relationship problems.

I always say, if you have mental health issues, autistic, Adhd, depression etc. You should not be in a relationship with anyone until you get those problem professional taken care of by doctors. None of this self diagnosed BS by watching stuff on social media.

Honestly, neither of you are fit to be in any relationship right now. Not with each other or anyone else until you get some underlying issues addressed.

Staying with each other wont fix those problems.

Yes. I'd agree. The issues stem from that. And make. All the other things worse.
And I absolutely would not want to get into a new relationship after. Like you say it wouldn't be right or fair.

Not really sure how I would be "treated" if I'm honest. I can function quite well on my own. Just difficult with a partner with conflicting issues.
 
You obviously care a lot for her, you keep defending her actions. But do you love her and her you?

Are you feeding off each other's issues? This doesn't sound like supporting each other, more the feeling of stuck with each other.

Ask yourself where you see yourself in 1, 2, 10, 20 years - does this look like a happy future - for either of you?
 
You obviously care a lot for her, you keep defending her actions. But do you love her and her you?

Are you feeding off each other's issues? This doesn't sound like supporting each other, more the feeling of stuck with each other.

Ask yourself where you see yourself in 1, 2, 10, 20 years - does this look like a happy future - for either of you?

I try not to paint a one sided story.
Its not her fault or mine I don't think.
I still love her and she always said same. It's why we've tried to work through differences knowing we are both difficult.

She's yet to say it this time round. That's what's really different this time.

I thought (we both did) that things were getting better only a few months ago. I'm not totally sure what's changed in last month. But something obviously has for her. Maybe it's just build up of resentment about everything? Maybe she's looking at another option without me away from here, new start?

We will have to talk about it today or tomorrow. It's unusual I have to say to have the silent treatment this long.

I think trying to talk at 9pm really bit. It's obviously no one thing. Which makes it harder I guess.



Where do I see myself in 5 years? No idea! Predictions have not come to pass even before this! Especially with career up ended and now this? Impossible! I can see two futures. One with her in it. With things fixed. Or if we break up, all bets are off. That's not a bad or good thing.
I'm not good at planning and I like quite a fluid life. I guess one thing I do know is we/I won't be living here.

I must make sure I keep this new job. It's so important to allow me to look after our dog. Pay bills. I can't allow whatever happens here to mess it up. I'm less than a month in.
 
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Sorry to say 413x, but the relationship looks over to me.

I know we are only seeing your point of view, but it does seem you're more of a carer, and not getting much back.
 
Sorry to say 413x, but the relationship looks over to me.

I know we are only seeing your point of view, but it does seem you're more of a carer, and not getting much back.
Definitely preparing for it going that way. Bizarrely calm at the moment. Either I've pre accepted it or I'm in denial!

Didn't expect this for a 40th birthday surprise
 
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As an aspect of living environment that can legitimately be all consuming - is the noisy aspect of the house something that changed physically since living there, or rather her increased sensitivity.
Both? working from home must present it's own stresses as well, and not having any sounding boards at work
(never had to work from home extensively, but outdoor activity/climbing friends are best sounding boards)
presumably it hadn't mattered when you got together the few shared activities.
With degrees of adhd/autism, if you can manage them for work, are they really playing heavily at home.
 
As an aspect of living environment that can legitimately be all consuming - is the noisy aspect of the house something that changed physically since living there, or rather her increased sensitivity.
Both? working from home must present it's own stresses as well, and not having any sounding boards at work
(never had to work from home extensively, but outdoor activity/climbing friends are best sounding boards)
presumably it hadn't mattered when you got together the few shared activities.
With degrees of adhd/autism, if you can manage them for work, are they really playing heavily at home.

She says it has changed. I don't really know. So I assume it has. But it's probably just as much her sensitivity.

Many things have changed since moving. She didn't have the physical limitation. And i felt we were going through more "normal" ups and downs then. Although it's hard to remember the details.

We certainly did more together, much more, without the dog and get physical issues. There also wasn't the stress/worry about her physical issues that overhang everything now outdoors.


I think her only sounding board is her counsellor and a friend (who she's struggled with recently). No one else. I've always encouraged and hoped she would make more friends to talk to about this.


Because relationships are fluid and my time memory is bad it's hard to say if much of this is new. She says she was just masking before (it's what the audhd youtube people always talk about) she will have meltdowns too. Which I do find very hard.


So yeah, maybe that side is now revealed, she isn't masking it, and/or it's getting worse.


So many factors.
 
Starting to feel like nothing I do is right and that I'm merely an inconvenience to everyone in my house, that every decision is somehow wrong.

Today's inkling. Got up, loads of little jobs around the house planned to get done whilst I'm off work. Mrs' sister calls her and wants to meet for coffee. Kids wanna go so they get to see their aunt but I said I was staying home to crack on.

Queue the pursed lips and disapproving looks as though I'm supposed to just drop all my plans because her sister is bored.
 
Starting to feel like nothing I do is right and that I'm merely an inconvenience to everyone in my house, that every decision is somehow wrong.

Today's inkling. Got up, loads of little jobs around the house planned to get done whilst I'm off work. Mrs' sister calls her and wants to meet for coffee. Kids wanna go so they get to see their aunt but I said I was staying home to crack on.

Queue the pursed lips and disapproving looks as though I'm supposed to just drop all my plans because her sister is bored.
In this situation, I'd say you go and take the kids, it'll enable me to crack on with jobs quicker. I mean it's not like a full family get together you're missing.
Or can the Mrs not drive or something, and needs you to take her ?
 
In this situation, I'd say you go and take the kids, it'll enable me to crack on with jobs quicker. I mean it's not like a full family get together you're missing.
Or can the Mrs not drive or something, and needs you to take her ?

She has her own car & I'm recovering from a broken toe (nearing the end) so I'd have been passenger princess.

Her sister always just moans about how bad her life is but refuses to take steps to sort it.
 
Depends what the 'small jobs' are I suppose. But if it's just cleaning/tidying. Big picture thinking does it matter compared to spending time with your family?

When you get to your death bed do you think you'll regret not having a tidier house or spending more time with your family.
 
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Depends what the 'small jobs' are I suppose. But if it's just cleaning/tidying. Big picture thinking does it matter compared to spending time with your family?

When you get to your death bed do you think you'll regret not having a tidier house or spending more time with your family.

Tidying is one aspect of the jobs that need to be done but there's others like fitting the sensory equipment in our son's room (lighting), finishing off the gaming room & building the kid's chairs so they're sat properly & a few items for me that I've been putting of because I've been prioritising the kids.
 
This is what I think. We both work fully remote. I asked her to show me some examples of people living this life with jobs.

I think i could do it solo. If I had a work set up. It would be hard even then. I know a friend who's come back to a house after vanning for a year. And he's single. I also think it's a fantasy. But I was hoping to show this by trying it.

She thinks I'm being negative and dismissive with my concerns. I said she can't even cope with me in the room next door if the doors open. How would we cope in a van?

To me it feels like you have a van and go on extended holidays or something. Not something to live in full time.
Working fully from home with your partner is not something to be taken for granted, it's very taxing for everyone concerned. You can become utterly dependent on each other for all your social interactions. Not having outlets to talk to other people is a bad situation.

I feel like I've only in the last few months got to a setup that works for me, and my partner is only working from home half the time.

You need to have honest conversations. My partner is ADHD, and I'm autistic. She'll sometimes come in and just start going off on one about the latest idea that's rooted in her head, while I'm in the middle of concentrating on work. For a while I just tolerated this and just got silently irritated, but having had a conversation about it, I just say, sorry, I'm concentrating right now, I can't just switch context like this.

Same as I can't just log off from work and then have a conversation about what we're doing at the weekend, I need time to decompress and let my brain unwind....so I strictly go out and do some exercise every day immediately after finishing work, climbing, gym, swim, whatever. Then when I get back home I'm done with my work day.

Having separate hobbies isn't a bad thing, as long as you do make sure you have some quality time with each other, and that doesn't mean a few hours in front of the TV when you're both knackered after work.

I'd also look at unplugging a bit. Not trying to be harsh here mate but your anxiety is visible on these forums, your posts are like a spectator doomscroll sometimes, you can see the dark thoughts and anxiety floating around behind the text. Which online interactions bring you joy? Which ones make you anxious?

In the last week I've decided to just disconnect myself from the news, and anything online that causes me to get into any kind of mental state I don't like. As a kinda habitual current-affairs follower my whole life, it's been quite weird, but I feel better for it. I haven't seen or heard the news for a week, so SC, no politics. I just check the sports news and the coffee/music/tech pages and let all the frankly insane **** going on in the world that I can't do anything about (other than vote) get blocked out and enjoy the blissful ignorance. Highly recommended.
 
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