BMW and M Power Owners

[Armageus]

lol wut ?

lol wut yourself

because i paid a premium for having a BMW used approved car with 12 months warranty.

So trust in the warranty, and if and when something actually goes wrong, i.e. you get a light on the dash then you get in touch with BMW. Warranty is for piece of mind, not so you can sit there monitoring for non-issues.

Whats the point in paying for a premium of 12 months warranty if your not going to keep an eye on it?

As above

If your not going to bother keeping an eye on your car you may aswel go to a back street dealer and buy one from them and save yourself some money .

lol wut

Also , i wanted to code out auto start stop. as my previous car had this enabled for half its life, and it eventually fried the starter motor which i then had to replace.

Can you prove that, or could it be that the Starter just failed anyway? Starter motors still failed on cars that predated stop/start.

its also a good thing that i got a decent reader as it turns out that BMW had not cleared a bunch of codes from before they sold me the car, now they are cleared i want to see if it stays clear or if any of them come back. I know these were codes pre them selling me the car as carly tells you what milage they first reported on

And are any of those codes anything to actually get excited about?

When I actually needed to read the codes on my car for problems, there was one code that was a problem, but lots of historic codes for things like bulbs being out - just because codes exist doesn't mean they are definitely anything to worry about.

Honestly just stop, stop looking for problems and just drive the car.

 

[mjt]

Like? what ? i will possibly go for it next time, but i want something thats easy to use for the odd code and can read out codes


If it lasts a year great

Your not getting a decent one for less than £60 these days, and even £60 gets you a chinese type reader/coder before it starts getting to the good stuff which is a bit more


Anything less than £60 i tried a £15 bluetooth dongle with various apps on my phone, didnt read codes properly, borrowed a £30 reader from someone, didnt read codes properly.

 

[DJMK4]

lol wut yourself


So trust in the warranty, and if and when something actually goes wrong, i.e. you get a light on the dash then you get in touch with BMW. Warranty is for piece of mind, not so you can sit there monitoring for non-issues.


As above


lol wut


Can you prove that, or could it be that the Starter just failed anyway? Starter motors still failed on cars that predated stop/start.


And are any of those codes anything to actually get excited about?

When I actually needed to read the codes on my car for problems, there was one code that was a problem, but lots of historic codes for things like bulbs being out - just because codes exist doesn't mean they are definitely anything to worry about.

Honestly just stop, stop looking for problems and just drive the car.

Not everything has a "dash light" there are more than a hundred sensors, if something goes wrong, you wont neccasarily see a dash light for this.


My old car? yes auto start stop was disabled at around 58k on my old car, the starter only lived until about 80k then it died, i had to get it replaced with a new Bosch starter

I have never seen a car without auto start stop had its starter motor die at that milage - having your starter motor stop and start every-time you stop adds extra unnecessary wear and tear on it.


I am driving the car, i do it daily.

Another thing i want to keep an eye on is the transmission, as i have had it pop out of auto a few times without me even touching the gear stick or paddle shifters. Not all the time as its usually rapid responding and great, but the odd occasion it has randomly popped out to manual. I guess this wont show anything on any reader though, but worth keeping an eye on.


People think i hate the car and i am looking for issues, i really dont hate it, its the best car so far that I have owned. and im not looking for issues


Im sure lots of people have code readers on the forums.

I certainly have for previous cars! Nothing new. Piece of mind! and it means if i find something i can fix myself (when the warrenty is out of date, if its something i can fix myself, then ill do that, without paying for diagnostics and a fix at a garage (IE Sensor maybe?)

 

[ChrisD.]

Sigh

Just do your own thing

Pretty sure it’s the same poster in the savings thread that doesn’t listen to anyone so I’m not surprised with the same behaviour here.

 

[wingman]

Nothing to add other than Carly charged me another year subscription as I'd totally forgot I signed up to auto renewals. No e-mail before to say it was coming up, and I got in touch with them like fifteen minutes after I'd been charged and they were unwilling to remove the charge.

Never again.

 

[DJMK4]

Pretty sure it’s the same poster in the savings thread that doesn’t listen to anyone so I’m not surprised with the same behaviour here.

Could you clarify what you mean about this statement? doesnt listen to anyone about what in the savings thread?

 

[DJMK4]

Nothing to add other than Carly charged me another year subscription as I'd totally forgot I signed up to auto renewals. No e-mail before to say it was coming up, and I got in touch with them like fifteen minutes after I'd been charged and they were unwilling to remove the charge.

Never again.

Then disable auto renewal ? (altough thanks for the heads up, i will make sure i do this

 

[ChrisD.]

Could you clarify what you mean about this statement? doesnt listen to anyone about what in the savings thread?

Your strategy of paying off cheap borrowing (overpaying your mortgage) vs being tax efficient by using S&S ISAs and paying more into your pension whilst not wholly terrible is inefficient and you end up being worse off.

 

[Armageus]

Not everything has a "dash light" there are more than a hundred sensors, if something goes wrong, you wont neccasarily see a dash light for this.

Anything that matters will trigger a dash light

My old car? yes auto start stop was disabled at around 58k on my old car, the starter only lived until about 80k then it died, i had to get it replaced with a new Bosch starter

So it might just have died at 80k anyway - that's not proof of anything

I have never seen a car without auto start stop had its starter motor die at that milage -

Just because you haven't, doesn't make it true. Equally I've never seen any <50k starter motor failures on cars used presumably for stop/start city traffic - doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but is no more or less likely than just being a random failure, rather than you assuming it's because of stop/start.

having your starter motor stop and start every-time you stop adds extra unnecessary wear and tear on it.

Which is designed-in by the manufacturers.

Another thing i want to keep an eye on is the transmission, as i have had it pop out of auto a few times without me even touching the gear stick or paddle shifters. Not all the time as its usually rapid responding and great, but the odd occasion it has randomly popped out to manual. I guess this wont show anything on any reader though, but worth keeping an eye on.

If it's an actual issue then you need to make use of your warranty and speak to your dealer , not just keep scanning for codes just in case

Im sure lots of people have code readers on the forums.

Yes but they plug them in when they either have a dash light/message, or when they experience an actual issue. Normal people don't sit around scanning their car for codes to "keep an eye on" it.

I certainly have for previous cars! Nothing new. Piece of mind! and it means if i find something i can fix myself (when the warrenty is out of date, if its something i can fix myself, then ill do that, without paying for diagnostics and a fix at a garage (IE Sensor maybe?)

And when an actual sensor fails, you'll get a dash light, or an actual symptom (e.g. car running rough) that you can notice that then needs investigation. You need to stop worrying about things that could happen.

 

[wingman]

Then disable auto renewal ? (altough thanks for the heads up, i will make sure i do this

Tbh this was years ago, I may well have just missed it etc. and yeah, it's on me, of course. But it's just a shady practice, and has since left a bad taste in my mouth, so I'm keen to sway others from using their services where possible.

Even Apple tell you when you're subs are going to renew and if you want to cancel before it does.

 

[DJMK4]

Your strategy of paying off cheap borrowing (overpaying your mortgage) vs being tax efficient by using S&S ISAs and paying more into your pension whilst not wholly terrible is inefficient and you end up being worse off.

Its called deciding to add some stratagy to bring the term down from 22 years (paying off when im 61) to 10.5 years (paying off when im 51... I am 41 now) halving the term by overpaying around 6k per year and putting the rest in savings (ISA's (cash or S&S) or pension.

£6k is 2 months savings, hardly a deal breaker

anyways, im not going to get in to finances in this thread, we will keep that to the other thread


No need to send out the fishing rod here,

 

[jpaul]

I use it at the concentration levels it suggests, but the reasons they gave for not covering it were:

I don’t drive it enough
I don’t use the washer fluid enough
I use the wrong concentration

Having taken the tank and underbonnet nozzles apart on bmw and the problem is often the anti-return valves near the nozzles that dry out after intermittent use leaving a sediment,
probably helped by not using distilled water (did they ever demand that?) in dilution ie caco3 , equally the exit side of the pump has the same issue and the lowest points on the tubing routing.

... Anyway Audi's are just as bad stupid design on the rear wiper with fluid that travels down middle of wiper pivot point and rubber seal that eventually degrades and lets fluid up into bearings and motor gear-box
(£100+ not designed to be maintanable)

 

[Armageus]

Having taken the tank and underbonnet nozzles apart on bmw and the problem is often the anti-return valves near the nozzles that dry out after intermittent use leaving a sediment,
probably helped by not using distilled water (did they ever demand that?) in dilution ie caco3 , equally the exit side of the pump has the same issue and the lowest points on the tubing routing.

Mostly it's the mesh "thimble" filter that sits on the pump - normally congealed with some sort of screenwash residue goo.

 

[shifty_uk]

lol wut ?

Not having a go mate. The warranty is good but I casually skim threads now and then and noticed you’ve been mentioning niggles or wanting stuff diagnosed since you got the car, I don’t recall exactly what but on the face of it seemed trivial.

You’ve got a nice car, enjoy it and don’t muck about with it too much or you’ll invalidate that warranty.

 

[DJMK4]

Not having a go mate. The warranty is good but I casually skim threads now and then and noticed you’ve been mentioning niggles or wanting stuff diagnosed since you got the car, I don’t recall exactly what but on the face of it seemed trivial.

You’ve got a nice car, enjoy it and don’t muck about with it too much or you’ll invalidate that warranty.

Yep i know

Im not looking at messing about with the car, i have hardly touched it apart from taking it to BMW for servicing and changing a tyre. (and cleaned it)

 

[MrRockliffe]

Having taken the tank and underbonnet nozzles apart on bmw and the problem is often the anti-return valves near the nozzles that dry out after intermittent use leaving a sediment,
probably helped by not using distilled water (did they ever demand that?) in dilution ie caco3 , equally the exit side of the pump has the same issue and the lowest points on the tubing routing.

... Anyway Audi's are just as bad stupid design on the rear wiper with fluid that travels down middle of wiper pivot point and rubber seal that eventually degrades and lets fluid up into bearings and motor gear-box
(£100+ not designed to be maintanable)

I use distilled water from my dehumidifier

 

[TS7]

Haha, I'm in a similar position. I've an F90 Comp, Had it from new so i've been spanked with depreciation. Just had my balloon payment letter and i'ts only £35k so I'll definitely be paying that.
BUT
I think its time to change!
The car is fantastic and not put a foot wrong. Just done the best part of 5k miles round Europe which has tipped me just over the 30k mark in 4 years. Its probably worth well north of £50k still.
I wouldn't hesitate going for the new one but in Tourer (G99) guise if I hadn't had the F90, Just seems theyve lowered some of the quality. Plus even though BMW have said they wont do a comp version. I bet they either do or a rename version

It still turns heads and I still love getting beeps and waves from people that know what it is. And it still turned heads in Puerto Banus. Suppose thats because there were 50 G wagons and 90 Lambo's. Only saw 1 other M5 and that was a new Tourer at a toll booth in Spain... So the F90 Comp is still pretty rare.

It is a very difficult car to move on from - it just does everything well and the power is something else!

Your last paragraph is what surprised me most about the ownership of this car. I absolutely did not expect the attention and conversations the car has sparked with strangers.

 

[Bear]

It is a very difficult car to move on from - it just does everything well and the power is something else!

I really struggled to think what I would move on to next when I had my F90 M5 but my hand was forced when it was written off. I did try to find a suitable replacement M5 but there wasnt the right car about and I was time limited so ended up buying an M8 Comp GC and have no regrets as its an epic car

 

[Robbo]

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/neue-klasse-has-arrived-bmw-ix3-ev-500-miles-range

First production car with the new BMW design language.

Looks ok from some angles… that’s about the best I can say! Narrow grille more traditional, like on the BMW 2002…

 

[tamzzy]

i thought the 4/i4 looks bad...this is on a whole other level of visual assault