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I noticed that, but I can’t quite believe I need to lower it that low! I’m getting to the point the saddle is the same height as the bars! (I do have quite short legs though, as my misses keeps reminding me!)
I don’t think it tracks that, not sure how it would reliably. I’ll see how the Zwift ride tomorrow feels.
 
If anyone saw that GPLama video of the super cheap DI2 custom button 3D printer thing......they work REALLY WELL!
I watched that video yesterday too and placed an order. Does anyone have a link for the 11 speed Shimano shifters?

(Mind you, the 11 speed on my Canyon aren't as bad as the 12 speed on the Tarmac)
 
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I noticed that, but I can’t quite believe I need to lower it that low! I’m getting to the point the saddle is the same height as the bars! (I do have quite short legs though, as my misses keeps reminding me!)
I don’t think it tracks that, not sure how it would reliably. I’ll see how the Zwift ride tomorrow feels.

Ultimately its about being comfortable and its pretty well known in bike fit circles that many of the pros have poor bike fits by many fitters standards. Its a complicated thing though as your body is generally excellent at adapting to issues and compensating from them. Perhaps in cycling its a bit more apparent than some other sports as its so repetitive but on the other hand its low impact.

Some people adjust their position and its miraculous. Pain gone, more comfort and more power. Other people struggle because they were so adapted and used to a weird position that the "normal" position is alien and they can't put out the power they could. Sometimes that something that gets way better with a few weeks riding and ultimately they are far better for it, sometimes they go back to their old position or some approximation of it. Sometimes you just get a **** bike fit as its not one size fits all and like all jobs, there are people who are good at it and people who are not.

Its half science, half intuition and 1/4 trial and error.
 
Your seat still looks too high.

I have a longer torso and shorter legs, and my bike fitter dropped my seat, but also moved it further back on the rails. I also had my cleats taken further back.From an aesthetics view, the low seat post to handlebar drop is not ideal, but since having the fit, I am faster and (importantly) more comfortable over long distances.
 
not been on a bike for over a month!

need to get out, been busy with life.. came back from euro trip with the boys and got ill, recovered and went to a 10 day euro trip with the wife and just got back on Saturday! need to pump up my leaky tpu tubes and get out for a ride but I'm dreading it, feel like I'll be extremely unfit.
 
Is that a free-app? Feel like I'm forever messing around with my fit, even more so now I'm cycling indoors. Would like something to tell me how wrong I am :cry:
 
Is that a free-app? Feel like I'm forever messing around with my fit, even more so now I'm cycling indoors. Would like something to tell me how wrong I am :cry:
no.. first "fit" sorta is but it is very limited.. 2nd adjustment etc is paid.
 
I'm always paranoid of moving the seat back. I know KOPS is not a standard or anything, but I start to feel that my feet are reaching forward in the stroke if the saddle is further back.

Even on my Factor, and the Wattbike for that matter, if I get a bit further forward in the saddle, I feel as if I can push down stronger, and it feels easier to make more power.
 
Is that a free-app? Feel like I'm forever messing around with my fit, even more so now I'm cycling indoors. Would like something to tell me how wrong I am :cry:

Yeh you can get a sort of 'you need to make changes' result with the free app, but to get the details its $35. I took a punt, and so far it seems to be worth it. I'd like to see how repeatable it is too. eg. take multiple videos with no changes, to see how repeatable the results are.

I think I have two weeks access. But I can pay another $40 for a year access, and set up multiple bikes.
 
30mm drop is huge! in my CX race on sunday I had to swap bikes and somehow my saddle had dropped about that from last weeks race, boy did I know about it! Had to come back in and swap over next lap.
 
Is that a free-app? Feel like I'm forever messing around with my fit, even more so now I'm cycling indoors. Would like something to tell me how wrong I am :cry:

Its still the summer mate! Get outside on your bike!
 
Its still the summer mate! Get outside on your bike!

It was 3 degrees this morning!! Visually it's very nice out but unless I know it's going to be dry or I have company, indoors always wins. I will admit I am being a massive fanny but I just don't get on with the cold at all.

I need to fix the Boa dial on my old shoes. It's just been staring at me for weeks now lol. But If I get those fixed I'd dable in some outdoor riding when I can put my winter insoles into them.
 
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So these are the comparisons with the latest fit (left), and the very first I did (after eyeballing the setup, and using a bit of the Zwift Ride recommendation)(right):
Great info and thanks for sharing. Got a link to the app? Quite intrigued what it'll say about my fit(s) :D

Can you adjust the positions on it after the AI detection? Your hip looks detected quite differently between the 2, but that could be as you're in different shorts so 'looks worse than it is'.

From the various fits I've had the fitters tended to have me pedalling easy and then use fingers to feel the outside of the knee and where the hip was to get the exact location, then stick little detection sensors on them. Either a sticky white/black dot, one early fit even had sticky pads, with a cable connecting each in series - would guess no camera detection with that one. I've had a fitter use little ruler things to measure angles when in certain positions, then the last couple (RETUL) with camera system would show angles directly on the video feel, live/active as pedalling (which was very cool)

I noticed that, but I can’t quite believe I need to lower it that low! I’m getting to the point the saddle is the same height as the bars! (I do have quite short legs though, as my misses keeps reminding me!)
I don’t think it tracks that, not sure how it would reliably. I’ll see how the Zwift ride tomorrow feels.
3cm is quite a drop - how did the sizing compare to your Factor - did you even try and copy those to the Ride or just eyeball and start from scratch?

You do look to be 'stretching' to get to the bottom of the pedal stroke in your first pictures - note the toe pointing. Dropping the height with the arms out (if comfortable) will make you a bit more aero (not that it matters indoors). As with anything - especially the 3cm saddle drop - small gradual changes. But I guess with the Ride being new for you it's all a bit different anyway?! How does it feel? Racing ZRL later? :D

Its half science, half intuition and 1/4 trial and error.
All of this is spot on - different people have different experiences. Much of it related to what they're coming from and what their goals are rather than just a 'bike fit' like a Pro would have (to maximise speed).

My last fit (although only had 4 different over the years!) at least half of the 'session' was around flexibility and looking at how my current setup was working. A focus on stretching exercises and increasing my mobility on the bike, increasing some ankle flex in my left without impacting my right (shorter crank lengths) to then reduce some of my saddle rock - for more comfort & less strain/sores. Then a discussion around aims/goals/targets before he even got to tweaking the bike - it was less about changing the bike to fit me to give me more power or speed, more aimed around comfort and flexibility/avoiding injury/more efficient due to my feelings/goals. But I had gone in to judge frame size and fit before purchasing a new bike...
 
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Whilst not huge volume, i've started getting a little bit of consistency again which is nice. Temps are dropping a little and i've been forcing myself out at lunchtime or making time after work for a quick hour ride. Starting to feel a bit of benefit from the extra elevation too. Having my daily ride change from 20km and 170m, to 20k and 300m should help.

Am mindful of jumping in and doing too much too soon again, so aiming for tomorrow off to recover as my legs feel a bit trashed. Then hoping to get another decent length ride on Saturday morning. These are the rides i've really been missing out on. The 3-5hr efforts and that's something i need to get back to if i want to ride for 24hrs!
Saturday i did 50km and ~750m elevation. Got home feeling great and then had the realisation that Traka is that x7 :eek:


Also been super spendy recently. New bike stuff should be here in the next few days. Although i've ordered a new integrated handlebar from aliexpress and i'm wondering if i should've gone separate. The frame has quite a long reach and whilst i've offset that and opted for only an 80mm stem, the new SRAM shifters add 15mm reach to my version.
I've also bought a new headlight, and then just picked up some Sungod glasses as mine have been rubbish.
 
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Yeh you can get a sort of 'you need to make changes' result with the free app, but to get the details its $35. I took a punt, and so far it seems to be worth it. I'd like to see how repeatable it is too. eg. take multiple videos with no changes, to see how repeatable the results are.

I think I have two weeks access. But I can pay another $40 for a year access, and set up multiple bikes.

Yeah, i'm tempted by them. I did have a bike fit so might see what he'd charge for extra bikes since he has the initial details, but that was ~15 months ago. Using the app to try and give bike fit details for 3 bikes and an indoor trainer would be sweet for only £75

Main issue for me is having a Kickr Bike, and so no trainer to put my other bikes on. Unsure how that works!
 
Yeah, i'm tempted by them. I did have a bike fit so might see what he'd charge for extra bikes since he has the initial details, but that was ~15 months ago. Using the app to try and give bike fit details for 3 bikes and an indoor trainer would be sweet for only £75

Main issue for me is having a Kickr Bike, and so no trainer to put my other bikes on. Unsure how that works!

Yeh I'm in the same boat for that (although now I do have one, but really cant be assed with the faff of doing that for two more bikes)

I heard someone saying they just leant against a wall or similar, with a small device that allowed you to pedal. (I guess pedaling backwards is a no no, as the behaviour would likely be different)
 
Yeh I'm in the same boat for that (although now I do have one, but really cant be assed with the faff of doing that for two more bikes)

I heard someone saying they just leant against a wall or similar, with a small device that allowed you to pedal. (I guess pedaling backwards is a no no, as the behaviour would likely be different)

I guess even stationary it can look at the top/bottom of pedal stroke and reach etc to give some indication of fit.
 
True - just reverse the video (assuming the software cant cope with backwards pedaling? not sure) and job done.

There were certain things it couldn't give feedback on (or proper feedback) until I had the saddle in a range it was happy with. So seat fore/aft, and a couple of others. Tempted to pay the $40 for a year access on multiple bikes.

Trouble is.......the Zwift ride is completely free to adjust! My 'proper' bikes aren't! If it says my bars are too short or long, they're £690 to replace!
 
True - just reverse the video (assuming the software cant cope with backwards pedaling? not sure) and job done.

There were certain things it couldn't give feedback on (or proper feedback) until I had the saddle in a range it was happy with. So seat fore/aft, and a couple of others. Tempted to pay the $40 for a year access on multiple bikes.

Trouble is.......the Zwift ride is completely free to adjust! My 'proper' bikes aren't! If it says my bars are too short or long, they're £690 to replace!

That's an excellent point. Maybe you need to just not have ****** expensive bars!
 
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