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Poll: DIGITAL ID - It's coming *** NO GENERAL POLITICS TALK - ONE AND ONLY WARNING ***
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You can guarantee it's going to be colloqially called the ****card (can't post the swear word here but it's another name for poo).
I'm not sure what response you expected. These petitions never do anything and ones with far more signatures have similarly been disregarded in the same manner before.
I think the welfare or at least pension aspect is similar to already having a job - IIRC that was one of the things mentioned in an interview with a minister - someone already retired won't need one. I guess someone making a new claim though would?
And in implementing it like that they can claim it's not forced on everyone but in practice as the current pensioners pass and people get/change jobs then it will be in practice for the vast majority of the population.
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Because it doesn't lol.
They know it's a sore point so trying to sell it on that basis, it's an absolute lie.
They are also doing nothing about illegal immigration either.
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It's pandering to the far right rather than addressing the fundamental issues that we have
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All in it for themselves. I’ve always said, democracy is an illusion in this country.
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This is the problem, if things don't change drastically I can see a lot of people not voting in 2029.
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I think Labour is the lesser of the evils, but I'm aware that it's only my opinion
The petition is not a waste of time. It's up to 2.7m people. All those 2.7m people now know that a large number of other people have the same opinion as them and will be emboldened to speak up. Labour MP's also know that at least that many people hate the idea. No the petition itself won't stop it. But the fear of Labour MP's losing votes might help when it comes to passing legislation.
(That said, Labour are toast at the next election regardless of this)
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Lib dems mate. Can't be worse
Let's see. I did see this at the bottom of their response:
If this public consultation happens, that should reinforce the fact that there is virtually no support for these plans.
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Everyone was saying that after the last lot, who were definitely awful. Look what we got in place though. There’s seemingly no bottom on this barrel.
They have an unfunded manifest unfortunately. They keep pledging new spending against the same revenue raising measures which don’t actually raise that much revenue.
Having worked in a few central gov departments over the years I know how awful and clunky getting things done, changing the status quo, investing in inovation and consolidating systems. The behaviours are too engrained, no one is willing to give things a go.
I just thought I'd air some questions to see if I was being too negative!
Having worked, and still work as a contractor for a government institution, the amount of incompetence and laziness, coupled with zero accountability, is absolutely staggering. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say that 75% of the money spent may as well have been set on fire. Even the simplest projects overrun by double, triple or even more of the original deadlines. They can take a £500 job to paint a wall and by the time they've had all their consultants in, then the consultants to review the plans, then the designers, the workshops that need to be held, then everything needs to be rescheduled three times because someone called in sick and has no backup, that job will easily be £20k. To paint a wall.
I've not even mentioned the corruption either, which again is so blatant it's unreal.
I've often said to put me in charge of a department, I've changed horrible teams and contracts around in the past and I'm more than happy to do it again. In fact I'm so confident that I'd say I could reduce expenditure by 50% in the first year alone, and have almost all the projects delivered on time.
But nope, it's a lot easier to just let things overrun and cost millions or even billions than spend a few hundred grand a year on a competent team of managers.
I struggle to get my head around it tbh.
Because they don't work in the private sector. Heads would roll at 10% overspend.
I think by public consultation they mean companies, not people, so they can design a system that makes it easier for HR departments.