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Nvidia RTX 6000 series (codename Rubin)
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Hope not 40% on 3k is 4.2k lol
Not sure why we need TSMC for consumer cards, the best generation recently from Nvidia was when they went with Samsung. For example a 3060ti was 50% faster than a 2060S after a single generation yet after the subsequent 2 gens of TSMC chips the 5060ti is only 30% faster than the 3060ti.
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Prices of next gen tech made at TSMC is going to be comical by looks of this.
Imagine the performance jump if Rubin has a 20-30% performance per watt improvement from architecture alone (separate from any process improvements). It's been such a long time since we had this.
Feel we're at the point where it's needed now. They can't easily go above 512bit bus and 600W for the 6090 this time, as things will start to fall apart at that stage.
Feel we're at the point where it's needed now. They can't easily go above 512bit bus and 600W for the 6090 this time, as things will start to fall apart at that stage.
What's the bus width got to do with it though, by itself it doesn't increase performance, memory bandwidth it just acts as a bottleneck on the GPU if the GPU is powerful enough, which you can get around anyway by adding more cache or using HBM. In case faster gddr7 is available, you don't need higher bus width to get more gddr7 bandwidth
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Timeline update for a delay unfortunately. When I made this thread in January 2025 the belief was that Rubin server would launch very early 2026 and then based on the 6 month Nvidia standard cadence between server and desktop, desktop RTX6000 would launch late 2026.
However Jensen now says Rubin server enters mass production this time next year - meaning late 2026. So now we're looking at desktop RTX6000 cards only launching mid to late 2027, meaning we're still 18 to 22 months away from new Nvidia GPUs
Kind of annoying for me as I wanted to build a new PC next year and now I have to wait for 2027
NVIDIA Shows Next-Gen Vera Rubin Superchip For The First Time, Two Massive GPUs Primed For Production Next Year
NVIDIA has shown off its next-gen Vera Rubin Superchip for the first time at GTC in Washington, primed to spark the next wave of AI.
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Timeline update for a delay unfortunately. When I made this thread in January 2025 the belief was that Rubin server would launch very early 2026 and then based on the 6 month Nvidia standard cadence between server and desktop, desktop RTX6000 would launch late 2026.
However Jensen now says Rubin server enters mass production this time next year - meaning late 2026. So now we're looking at desktop RTX6000 cards only launching mid to late 2027, meaning we're still 18 to 22 months away from new Nvidia GPUs
Kind of annoying for me as I wanted to build a new PC next year and now I have to wait for 2027
NVIDIA Shows Next-Gen Vera Rubin Superchip For The First Time, Two Massive GPUs Primed For Production Next Year
NVIDIA has shown off its next-gen Vera Rubin Superchip for the first time at GTC in Washington, primed to spark the next wave of AI.
Means I get a bigger chunk of time with my 5090 which is why I got in as early as possible. Bring on the 6090.
Sort of the same thing here, I got in early with my 4090 purchase and the longer we still have to wait for the RTX6000 launch, the better value my original purchase becomes. 4090 launched at $1600 in October 2022, I ordered but only received mine in November. Fast forward, now I might only get to replace it in mid 2027 with a 6090 - about 4 and a half years later. That works to under $1 a day to own what will still be the second fastest gaming gpu available before RTX6000 launches and its cheaper than renting hardware from Nvidia's streaming service as well.
Never the less I'm still sad, because there are other components in my build I want to replace and prefer just doing a total new build at once. Some of my parts are barely hanging on, my case fans for example are now dying one after another
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I wonder if AMD might make it to market faster and if RDNA 5 rumours are to be believed then it is looking like it might close the gap with Nvidia even more than this gen, this might force Nvidia to release sooner otherwise they might loose market share.Timeline update for a delay unfortunately. When I made this thread in January 2025 the belief was that Rubin server would launch very early 2026 and then based on the 6 month Nvidia standard cadence between server and desktop, desktop RTX6000 would launch late 2026.
However Jensen now says Rubin server enters mass production this time next year - meaning late 2026. So now we're looking at desktop RTX6000 cards only launching mid to late 2027, meaning we're still 18 to 22 months away from new Nvidia GPUs
Kind of annoying for me as I wanted to build a new PC next year and now I have to wait for 2027
NVIDIA Shows Next-Gen Vera Rubin Superchip For The First Time, Two Massive GPUs Primed For Production Next Year
NVIDIA has shown off its next-gen Vera Rubin Superchip for the first time at GTC in Washington, primed to spark the next wave of AI.
That would be interesting but from the trend of the last several generations AMD will wait to see what Nvidia's cards are priced at and follow suit. When was the last time AMD released first in a gen, the 7970?
This is a huge window of opportunity for AMD and Intel.
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I don't tend to follow the server stuff but is it always server GPU's first and then desktop GPU's ?
I don't think it was always the case but it has been for the two or three generations at least and I don't see it changing because the profit margin is much higher on server products and server products make up something like 90% of their revenue now
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Good point, I don't think Nvidia will be releasing late 2027 though, They will want 2026 to saturate the market with the 5070, 5070 Ti and 5080 Supers and then as early as possible in 2027 to launch their 6000 series, I reckon late January/early February 2027 for desktop Rubin parts as it'll also be in line with their 2 year release cadence.
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I heard that with every release and yet AMD always found a way to mess it up.
That said, just looking at how much money is being "printed" with the whole AI, neither Nvidia nor AMD needs consumers anymore, as they found a glitch in the system that lets them print virtual money turning into real money without the need to actually sell much anymore. Ergo, the last thing I would count on now is for either to care for what we want and need.
It's not even that there's no real competition, Nvidia are an A.I company now. Why waste precious fabrication time on gaming stuff where you make a tiny amount of profit, when you can make A.I products and print money.
I've heard a rumor that 6000 series might be Nvidia's last consumer grade product line, atleast I think its more likely they spin off Geforce as it's own thing at some point, so they stop splitting focus on us lowly consumer plebs.
Me, I'm happy. I sold my 4090fe earlier this year for £1,400 and put that straight in to my 5090 Astral. Hopefully demand stays high for 5090's when 6090's drop and I can do the same. Either way, right now there's nothing causing my system any trouble.
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Like it or not, the way these companies will get round the slowing of Moore's law, is with innovation not coming so rapidly in the hardware space but in the AI space.
The 6000 series will just do more AI stuff with our games.
Personally I can not wait for the 6080 as I would like an upgrade.
The 6000 series will just do more AI stuff with our games.
Personally I can not wait for the 6080 as I would like an upgrade.
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