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Bioware Closing Down

VincentHanna said:
We also live in an insane time where people think every game is somehow "woke"
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if a game pushes rl minority ideology and trying to normalise things then yes its woke.

also gears of wars is woke because during a planetry invasion they had time to make about 20 trans flags. you don;t think if the earth got invaded suddenly all these activist issues would be taking a back steat? theres bigger things to waste manhours on than 20 different gay flags

they can;lt create a new IP for their actvism they only know how to destroy popular IPs

No one wants HR led games or people sanitsing scripts...

How many companies do these people need to ruin before someone gets it?

They could have Remade KOTOR exactly as it was with modern graphics and pulled in a fortune... same with mass effect 1-3, didn;t mass effect have same sex relationship options as a choice?

instead they had to wast hundreds of millions on being activists thinking they are working for LGBTQ rights campaigners


They always say "we can;t tell" if its a trans person or not so then just let them be male or female characters ffs... why do they have to do the opposite and introduce some caricature that doesnt represent most LGBTQ people in the first place? we are supposed to believe they are all flamboyant drag queens or people with weird issues who cant get along with straight people....


people are more against gays and trans than they were 20 years ago cos mental illness people can;t help themselves...

Remember when trans nadia won big brother? or that gay guy around the same time? can you remember the outrage? or the bigots? was mostly straight people voting for them BTW..... these days its all got to be so polarising and pretentious BS

Remember all the comedies with likable gay characters in the 90s and 00s?

all these people do is set LGBTQ rights backwords decades with their main character syndrome cant seperate their life from their work
 
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ic1male said:
No, that was too woke as well.
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They spent seven years and absurd amounts of money building a prequel with previously loved characters, and then had them bossed about by a woman that looked like a man, had toxic masculinity, was a half black, half blind lesbian with a breathing disability. Pure bait and switch, which of course annoyed the overwhelming majority of their male demographic, who were the vast majority of their customers. Where was their "representation"?

Build a good game with good characters, nobody cares. Make a point of lecturing your customers in the most low-brow way and taking away the things they love, and don't be surprised when people don't want it. Not everything has to be for everyone, and that's okay to everyone but the angry activists who have infiltrated so many of our entertainment mediums with the intent to destroy them.
 
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Sad to see another studio close but as many have said they weren't the same as in their earlier years.

I don't think EA will survive another decade by concentrating on big repetitive I.P and huge marketing bills while dealing with $20bn of added debt.
 
dcsarge said:
Sad to see another studio close but as many have said they weren't the same as in their earlier years.

I don't think EA will survive another decade by concentrating on big repetitive I.P and huge marketing bills while dealing with $20bn of added debt.
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It's madness. IIRC, the last figure I saw said the EA don't even make enough money to service the debt they've been saddled with. This is just another leveraged buy-out that ends up killing the company with vast amounts of interest they can never pay back, let alone the debt.
 
Steampunk said:
They spent seven years and absurd amounts of money building a prequel with previously loved characters, and then had them bossed about by a woman that looked like a man, had toxic masculinity, was a half black, half blind lesbian with a breathing disability. Pure bait and switch, which of course annoyed the overwhelming majority of their male demographic, who were the vast majority of their customers. Where was their "representation"?

Build a good game with good characters, nobody cares. Make a point of lecturing your customers in the most low-brow way and taking away the things they love, and don't be surprised when people don't want it. Not everything has to be for everyone, and that's okay to everyone but the angry activists who have infiltrated so many of our entertainment mediums with the intent to destroy them.
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All boxes ticked with one character.
 
dcsarge said:
Sad to see another studio close but as many have said they weren't the same as in their earlier years.

I don't think EA will survive another decade by concentrating on big repetitive I.P and huge marketing bills while dealing with $20bn of added debt.
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But arent they now owned by rich oil people?
 
VincentHanna said:
We also live in an insane time where people think every game is somehow "woke"

I saw it on the Steam discussion boards for Star Wars: Galactic Racer and I've seen it on these forums recently where people thought the latest Gears of war release was "woke" because it had a female character...
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A lot of games are woke. Dragon Age the Veilguard was woke.

It has nothing to do with “representation”. It isn’t woke because it has woke characters. It is woke because it included stuff like this.


Normal people do not behave like this. Insufferable activists behave like this. In 99% of games it doesn’t matter if characters are gay or straight or anything else. People don’t care and don’t want to know.

Nobody cares if Doomguy is gay. Nobody wants to know. He might be. Nobody wants to find out.
 
dcsarge said:
Those oh so lovely and moral people who don't care about shifting debt and making profit at any cost? No worries then :p.
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Oh it's better than that:

Jared Kushner played a key role in the $55 billion leveraged buyout of Electronic Arts, which was completed on August 4, 2026, involving the Saudi Public Investment Fund and Silver Lake. His firm, Affinity Partners, was part of the consortium that acquired EA, aiming to expand investments in the entertainment and gaming sectors.
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It's definitely above board with a member of the Trump clan involved.
 
EA going the way of Ubisoft? Really would be the time to pop the champagne corks :cry: In the mean time I'll settle for game studios that tell people to not play their games going under.
 
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Do you think if EA dies that all the the great studios it gobbled up will return?

Like when the head vampire is killed, all the victims are cured?

spudbynight said:
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Normal people do not behave like this. Insufferable activists behave like this. In 99% of games it doesn’t matter if characters are gay or straight or anything else. People don’t care and don’t want to know.

Nobody cares if Doomguy is gay. Nobody wants to know. He might be. Nobody wants to find out.
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Shoehorned in to games and movies because there, they can't be told to shut the **** up.

They made a woke lecture, then built a mediocre game around it. If it wasn't Dragon Age no one would have noticed, but they have destroyed a franchise.

I think some sane people have looked at the ME game they are making and it has the same problem. So are cutting their losses now. One up side to the Saudis is they won't really tolerate woke nonsense lol
 
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Nasher said:
Do you think if EA dies that all the the great studios it gobbled up will return?

Like when the head vampire is killed, all the victims are .
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No.

But if folks are interested there are some games being worked on from old bioware devs such as Casey Hudson, James Ohlen/Drew Karpyshyn. they started different studios and are working on different projects. Casey Hudson started Arcanaut Studios (with Lucasarts) and are making Star Wars: Fate of the Old Republic a Single-player action RPG, so basically a kotor sequal in all but name. James Ohlen and Drew Karpyshyn are doing Exodus, which is a Mass Effect style Single-player action RPG.
 
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C Kent said:
No.

But if folks are interested there are some games being worked on from old bioware devs such as Casey Hudson, James Ohlen/Drew Karpyshyn. they started different studios and are working on different projects. Casey Hudson started Arcanaut Studios (with Lucasarts) and are making Star Wars: Fate of the Old Republic a Single-player action RPG, so basically a kotor sequal in all but name. James Ohlen and Drew Karpyshyn are doing Exodus, which is a Mass Effect style Single-player action RPG.
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Looking forward to those more than anything else EA is making.
 
megalomanic said:
leaked trailer for what was in the works, apparently


Always sad to see companies closed down and people lose their jobs, doesn't come as a surprise though unfortunately.
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It's easy to make a great two minute trailer. It doesn't tell us anything about the gameplay, characters, writing, and all the other things that are actually important. It's not as if Mass Effect is gone, just Bioware. EA (god help us) still has the rights and can have one of their other studios do the work.
 
C Kent said:
No.

But if folks are interested there are some games being worked on from old bioware devs such as Casey Hudson, James Ohlen/Drew Karpyshyn. they started different studios and are working on different projects. Casey Hudson started Arcanaut Studios (with Lucasarts) and are making Star Wars: Fate of the Old Republic a Single-player action RPG, so basically a kotor sequal in all but name. James Ohlen and Drew Karpyshyn are doing Exodus, which is a Mass Effect style Single-player action RPG.
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Drew is an excellent writer. Loved his Bane novels!!
 
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